Bell Target Shooting.

[Jimlad]

Hi Plinker

I am sorry to disagree with you again, 10 metre easier than bell target? You are having a laugh! The skill required to compete even at club level at ten metre is far superior to that required in bell target. I have shot bell target and ten metre for 40 years plus, and I can guarantee you that 10 metre is a lot more difficult, there is a different pressure with bell target, but the skill required to shoot 60 shots free standing at a pin head at ten metres just don’t relate, if you find ten metre so easy maybe you should be shooting for your county/country , I think the last Gold medal score was 598/600 that is 58/60 pin heads at 10 metres, what type of scores are you recording at bell target? 3/8th” hole

Jim

[thimblehouse]

Of coarse 60 shots is harder than 6 or 10. Wrong comparison.

[Jimlad]

Hi

I stand by my statement, your quote ' When doing indoor ranges at Game shows we are often asked which is the easiest always reply the 10m. They look at you mad, then after trying the Bell at 6yds and stopping them leaning on the table they then agree with us'. even over six shots shooting at a pin head over 10 metres, or a 3/8" inch hole at 6 or 5 yards, the 10 metre will be more difficult.

With regards to the Pcp over the single stroke pneumatic, you are right in saying that many shooters can hold their own with the 300s etc against the high cost full modern match rifle, but put two equal shooters in experience and capability against each other, over a few matches and there will be only one outcome. The fit, balance, trigger, the fact there is no effort in loading will all tell, and what have Feinwerkbau been doing over the last 50 years wasting their time?

Jim

[thimblehouse]

It was explained to me recently, by a British 10m campion why he did Bell Target and most came off saying Bell is harder.
Its all down to mechanics. Unless you have amazing eye sight or use magnification seeing the 1/2 mm dot in the centre of a 10 diagram clearly
is near impossible. So when using ring front sight as most do, you put the who black of the diagram in the ring to shoot for the bull.
You then do the same with Bell. The bell black centre is smaller when looking through the sights and as such appears more difficult.
He also added he did Bell as it was more of a chalenge shooting by yourself than in a row with no one checking every shot.
This putting him in good practice for 10m.

Weather you get a bull at the end of the day is another thing.

[RobinC]

I'm not biased against any branch of the shooting sport, if its with guns I like it, my wife and I do smallbore prone (used to do 3P .22 and fullbore) still do 10 mt air, but come on guys get realistic, bell is equivalent to shooting at the 6 ring (7 at best!) on 10 mt.

Were not demeaning it, Ok its fun, a great sport, but its not difficult compared to 10 mt. And the pressure of a live shoot? There are many live 10 mt shoots, did one this week end. Look up Sonja Phfeilshifter on You Tube shooting a 400 ex 400 at 10mts in a German Budesliga team event, in front of a screaming, stamping crowd and also with pop music playing!!! Sonja incidently is "probably" the best air rifle shooter in the world, men or women and shoots 400's regularly.
Good shooting
Robin

[MikeLewis]

I feel I have to disagree with the statement that bell target is easier than 10m. I'm also curious which British 10m champion you were speaking to about. There's very few that actually shoot bell target and the few that do are capable of shooting to a very high standard with or without kit, but would never entertain the idea of shooting 10m without full kit! Those that have shot have used it as training exercises and mental training for finals.

No 10m aims for the half mil 10, to do so would be an impossilble task. The black extends out to the 4 ring making a big black circle which is centred in the fore sight with a measured amount of white around the black circle created. A common problem is people using too small a foresight thinking it'll make them shoot more accurately when it usually leads to other problems. Most people would use a smaller foresight for bell using a similar principle. But on the flip side i have seen people take a foresight out and use just a tunnel because it was too small and shot very well.

Those who shoot bell in and out will tell you it reinforces alignment to target, positional awareness and mental toughness and they're right. But shooting 10m will be more beneficial technique wise than someone shooting bell. I've seen possibles shot longarm on a bell target but don't ever recall anyone shooting much more than 500/600 in a 10m comp.

Anybody that can shoot 570 at 10m WILL shoot posssibles on bell, but not everybody that can shoot possibles is capable of shooting 570 at 10m.

I've shot bell target for over 15yrs, to a high standard, I've shot possible season averages, won inter regional bell target competitions and shot 'perfect' scores. I've also shot 10m over that period, winning open competitions, inter regional comps and represent Wales. Bell target is a fun and challenging sportand has introduced many people to the sport of shooting, but will always be an easier discipline than 10m.

Aim straight
Mike

[markmac]

I feel I have to disagree with the statement that bell target is easier than 10m. I'm also curious which British 10m champion you were speaking to about. There's very few that actually shoot bell target and the few that do are capable of shooting to a very high standard with or without kit, but would never entertain the idea of shooting 10m without full kit! Those that have shot have used it as training exercises and mental training for finals.

No 10m aims for the half mil 10, to do so would be an impossilble task. The black extends out to the 4 ring making a big black circle which is centred in the fore sight with a measured amount of white around the black circle created. A common problem is people using too small a foresight thinking it'll make them shoot more accurately when it usually leads to other problems. Most people would use a smaller foresight for bell using a similar principle. But on the flip side i have seen people take a foresight out and use just a tunnel because it was too small and shot very well.

Those who shoot bell in and out will tell you it reinforces alignment to target, positional awareness and mental toughness and they're right. But shooting 10m will be more beneficial technique wise than someone shooting bell. I've seen possibles shot longarm on a bell target but don't ever recall anyone shooting much more than 500/600 in a 10m comp.

Anybody that can shoot 570 at 10m WILL shoot posssibles on bell, but not everybody that can shoot possibles is capable of shooting 570 at 10m.

I've shot bell target for over 15yrs, to a high standard, I've shot possible season averages, won inter regional bell target competitions and shot 'perfect' scores. I've also shot 10m over that period, winning open competitions, inter regional comps and represent Wales. Bell target is a fun and challenging sportand has introduced many people to the sport of shooting, but will always be an easier discipline than 10m.

Aim straight
Mike

Thanks for this post Mike - very interesting.

I am an absolute newbie at this sport having just bought a very nice Anschutz 380 and making my own Bell Target for practice.I have tried and failed to use dioptre sights effectively as I find I cannot get a reasonable / bright sight picture with my current set up and so have chickened out and fitted a small scope to the rifle - just for plinking .I realise I have to use dioptres if I want to shoot bell target properly and now having read this thread will try different set ups to the foresight and perhaps the rearsight aperture to get a better target image.

Thanks again.