Pump up pneumatics - why are they so great?

[trevor1]

Well, I bought a used Innova a while ago (because I never had one back in the 80s).

I hated it (maybe it had been 'clicked and clacked' too many times in it's past!).

It was cheap, nasty, loose, and toy-like... I second the OP. I'd prefer to use just about any airgun than that thing... recoil-less or not!

I luckily sold it quickly on for what I'd paid.

Now, I wonder how much I'd like an ASI Paratrooper, with the old rosey specs on!


Phil

was not a particularly beautiful rifle and the trigger gets harder to pull the more you pump it.However,in 1978,this Sharp cost $NZ70 and churned a pellet out at a 1000fps without recoil. I think you folk in the UK might have only had "tame" Innovas?
Footnote.
I've watched a number of well-endowed chaps who cock the likes of HW80s easily,struggling with pumpers .A "pumping knack" is definitely required but once mastered,makes the task fun.:-)

[MattyBoy]

was not a particularly beautiful rifle and the trigger gets harder to pull the more you pump it.However,in 1978,this Sharp cost $NZ70 and churned a pellet out at a 1000fps without recoil. I think you folk in the UK might have only had "tame" Innovas?
Footnote.
I've watched a number of well-endowed chaps who cock the likes of HW80s easily,struggling with pumpers .A "pumping knack" is definitely required but once mastered,makes the task fun.:-)

Good morning Trevor

You are right that ours are usually 12 ft lb but thereare some on FAC I imagine.

I did purchase one where the blow off valve had been messed with and when I got it home I had to take it apart double quick as it chronod at 18 ft lb...

All mine run at 11.5 to 11.6 but are still effective hunting guns.

I would like one at 18ft lb but so much pumping...

You are right it's a knack! I enjoy it too

[Hsing-ee]

I would like one at 18ft lb but so much pumping...

You are right it's a knack! I enjoy it too

That's why they are also called Grace Guns - after Grace Jones' song 'Slave to the Rythmn'.

[MattyBoy]

That's why they are also called Grace Guns - after Grace Jones' song 'Slave to the Rythmn'.

Err... no

They are also known as MARRS GUNS

after "Pump up the volume (pump it up keep pumping)..."

[colin57]

I bought my Sharp Innover in 1981 for the grand sum of £49. I still have it, it still works very well indeed and it has never let me down. We are all different and we all like different things, or am I a bit odd.

[MattyBoy]

I bought my Sharp Innover in 1981 for the grand sum of £49. I still have it, it still works very well indeed and it has never let me down. We are all different and we all like different things, or am I a bit odd.

You are OK with me Colin

I have 12 Innovas and I am not odd at all

[Rickenbacker]

Mine was probably just a bit old and worn out... rather like me really!

[mallyally]

Why i love this feller but i do

[Hsing-ee]

Why i love this feller but i do

Because it is cool! It looks like a 1950s schoolboy's science-fiction dream! You could shoot (imaginary) lions with that.

[red bob]

this thread is building a head of steam that creates new converts!! i can see it becoming even more
difficult to pick up bargains;i suppose i will be reduced to picking up horrendously abused examples
and refurbing them,woods no problem and as andy has managed to miraculously fix chipped breechs
they can be bought back to something resembling the original.

[Rickenbacker]

this thread is building a head of steam that creates new converts!! i can see it becoming even more
difficult to pick up bargains;i suppose i will be reduced to picking up horrendously abused examples
and refurbing them,woods no problem and as andy has managed to miraculously fix chipped breechs
they can be bought back to something resembling the original.

Any thread that steers the conversation away from the endless FWB Sport is ok with me!

[bobby1]

you could walk all day with your Innova at the ready , and your spring would not weaken ,

[oneseven]

Thanks All, most enlightening. Hmm yes its got me thinking again. I appreciate that the Sharp rifles are more highly rated than the Sheridan I found, and I do appreciate that the Innova is especially light and handy.

I think the argument that a spring will weaken over a day is a red herring though. I've certainly not experienced that with my old TX200, but I've not experimented with the chrono.

I've come very close to shouting "I'll take it" at few Innova/Ace adverts - but I always stop myself thinking it will be fired a few times then left to prop up the corner of the gunsafe..

I have gained one especially important piece of anecdotal support for future arguments with my other half, when a rifle shaped parcel arrives..

12 Innovas!? 12!!!!?

[AllanM]

Mallyally, that's a real nice looking Crosman -- what is it, a 140 or a 1400?

PS -- nice choice of scope too.

[tradingnow2010]

looks like a 1400...