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    Never seen this before.

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...leypellets.jpg

    Ive never seen this before - .22 Webley pellets in a .177 tin with an official looking 'TEMPORARY PACK' sticker on it.
    Theres 467 (yes, I counted them. The things us anoraks have to do! ) .22 course, ribbed round head pellets (Webley?) in a tin that should contain .177 pellets.

    Does this increase or decrease the value of the tin?

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    If the tin had been full and sealed, yes it would be worth more, but how would you know if it had the wrong sized pellets in it, unless you opened it?
    Tin's worth a bit, but I'll give you a tanner for the pellets!
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    There is a clue on the lid Eric what sized pellets are inside !

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    I'm guessing this is a green 1000 pellet .177 tin with a small orange temporary pack sticker for .22 pellets.

    I have one that I bought myself,mid to late 60's I think, as far as I can remember (which isn't that far nowadays!)

    and I need to go to Specsavers, only just noticed the pic link!!!!!!

    That tin is in better condition than mine and it's only sat in the cupboard for years!.
    Last edited by CHJF177; 28-10-2011 at 02:45 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    There is a clue on the lid Eric what sized pellets are inside !

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    But it's been opened Ian! How do you prove that it ORIGINALLY had .22 pellets in it! I could have a similar tin with BB's in it, but it doesn't mean that it was originally sold with them in it does it?

    Your word 'sticker' gives a clue. The tin and the pellets are worth no more than any other tin and pellets.

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    Ian. I kid you not, given the condition of the tin (good) and the condition of the sticker (very good), coupled with the virtually complete contents, given I have seen empty rough examples of these temporary stickers and tins go for £30, your example, as here, has just got to be worth £50 plus post all day long, and maybe even a little more? Hope this helps.
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    The tin and the pellets are worth no more than any other tin and pellets.
    Rubbish.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    Ian. I kid you not, given the condition of the tin (good) and the condition of the sticker (very good), coupled with the virtually complete contents, given I have seen empty rough examples of these temporary stickers and tins go for £30, your example, as here, has just got to be worth £50 plus post all day long, and maybe even a little more? Hope this helps.
    A more realistic valuation.

    Wonder what a sealed example would fetch?

    There was another variation, this being the orange 500 x .22 rectangular tin with a smaller round white sticker, and the logo '.177' on it. This is rare to find as the stickers were applied using a different adhesive which dried out more rapidly over the years, therefore the many of these tins just have the round outline of the original sticker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpquest View Post
    But it's been opened Ian! How do you prove that it ORIGINALLY had .22 pellets in it! I could have a similar tin with BB's in it, but it doesn't mean that it was originally sold with them in it does it?

    Your word 'sticker' gives a clue. The tin and the pellets are worth no more than any other tin and pellets.

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    The orange sticker - http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...leypellets.jpg states: 'TEMPORARY PACK. WEBLEY PELLETS. 500 .22' yet the tin clearly states '1000 No. 1 bore' Ive seen several tins with contents of 500.
    I doubt if any shop would have had the stickers produced and I guess therefore it came out of the Webley factory like this when they run out of .22 tins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    Ian. I kid you not, given the condition of the tin (good) and the condition of the sticker (very good), coupled with the virtually complete contents, given I have seen empty rough examples of these temporary stickers and tins go for £30, your example, as here, has just got to be worth £50 plus post all day long, and maybe even a little more? Hope this helps.
    Its made my day - mind you, I am easily pleased.
    Thank you.

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    I guess therefore it came out of the Webley factory like this when they run out of .22 tins.
    You guess correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    The orange sticker - http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...leypellets.jpg states: 'TEMPORARY PACK. WEBLEY PELLETS. 500 .22' yet the tin clearly states '1000 No. 1 bore' Ive seen several tins with contents of 500.
    I doubt if any shop would have had the stickers produced and I guess therefore it came out of the Webley factory like this when they run out of .22 tins.

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    At last you got it Ian! It's all about the sticker, not the pellets. Boy, that was tough!!
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    As mentioned by IJ and Mr shooter, these tins were sent out with the "wrong" contents when retailer orders needed to be filled and the correct tins were not available.

    As mentioned, both the .177's and .22's came in the "opposite" colour tins (Webley for a long time used orange for .22, and green for .177 tins up to the 70's dual colour tins).

    Example of types of rectangular tins here showing variations and temporary stickers of both types.

    Various Webley tins .....the earlier types showing the Orange and Green theme regarding calibre.

    As usual, there is the exception that proves the rule or whatever.......Webley did a 200 size .177 tin in the 70's of the same graphic style as the dual coloured tins, but used orange......these are quite scarce and can fetch good money......There is an example 4th row down extreme right of this old photo .

    As to value, sometimes they slip through the radar, one of mine had the sticker inside out of sight when listed, so I got it at a knock down price, obviously the seller had no idea it would make any difference......to many people they are just tins that have been in the shed for yonks full of screws and they often get a (nice) surprise when they sell them.......another nice surprise was to get about a dozen pellet vouchers in another tin I bought, again with no mention of this in the listing. But generally, because they are thinner on the ground, the stickers can attract up to a 50% premium to a saddo like me who wants all the variations.

    That's how it starts........I was quite happy with one nice prewar wasp tin.......then I saw one with different size printing, then a screen printed one, then a London address one, then a fluted rolled one etc. etc. etc. etc.

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    Canned heat

    You counted them?

    You need help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nogsk View Post
    You counted them?

    You need help.


    Oh I do - I DO !!!
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    The tin shown in the picture linked in the OP, has just been sold for £60 + £3.95 postage.

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