pellgun oil

[buster 123]

I Have just bought an asg 6,, dan wesson revolver,i used to use pellgun oil on my cp88,will it be ok to use it with this gun aswell,sorry if its a daft thing to ask,but i dont know much about c02 guns.
cheers
buster 123

[bassmanrich]

I Have just bought an asg 6,, dan wesson revolver,i used to use pellgun oil on my cp88,will it be ok to use it with this gun aswell,sorry if its a daft thing to ask,but i dont know much about c02 guns.
cheers
buster 123

its the only oil to use, made for co2 other oil will damage the seals.

[magicniner]

Or you can use M9D CO2 & SSP Gun Oil -

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfinefor...about5725.html

Regards,
Nick

[RJVB]

I've read one should (or could) use silicon spray (non fatty/greasy lubricant) - untrue?

[magicniner]

I've read one should (or could) use silicon spray (non fatty/greasy lubricant) - untrue?

Only if you clean it off all metal to metal wear areas and then lube them correctly, silicone oil is worse than nothing on metal to metal applications as it makes a nice grinding paste!
On Umarex pistols the CO2 lube will get on the metal mag and metal mag advance system.

- Nick

[RJVB]

Grinding paste? How so? I'm talking about the sort of lubricant used for (precision) locks, but also applications like sleeved brake/clutch cables. You wouldn't want something that only wears them down quicker there, so are we talking about the same kind of product?
(flashback to my schooldays ... silicon atoms can theoretically replace the carbon atoms in organic compounds without changing the 3D molecule structure too much so I guess it's not because sand contains a lot of silicates that all silicon oil is grinding paste?)

PS: I guess it's still better than good ole WD40? )

[magicniner]

Grinding paste? How so? I'm talking about the sort of lubricant used for (precision) locks, but also applications like sleeved brake/clutch cables. You wouldn't want something that only wears them down quicker there, so are we talking about the same kind of product?
(flashback to my schooldays ... silicon atoms can theoretically replace the carbon atoms in organic compounds without changing the 3D molecule structure too much so I guess it's not because sand contains a lot of silicates that all silicon oil is grinding paste?)

PS: I guess it's still better than good ole WD40? )

I didn't say silicone oil is grinding paste, I said it makes grinding paste.
Because it has no film strength or lube properties for metal to metal applications it allows metal to metal galling and wear, then suspends the wear products between and on the rubbing components allowing then to conveniently eat themselves further - grinding paste.

Sleeved clutch cables are metal running in a plastic sleeve - a good application for silicone lubricants.

Could you specify a brand of Silicon oil used in precision lock maintenance? I've only ever seen Silicone oil for sale - based on polymerised siloxanes. There are lubricants based on silicone oil for use in metal to metal applications but these contain a friction modifier in suspension, usually PTFE or Molybdenum Disulphide, both good dry lubricants on their own.

WD-40 is chiefly something close to parafin with some heavy oil mixed in, unless used in an application where plastic or rubber could be damaged it's potentially a better wear preventer than silicone oil and at least it cleans the surface you spray, the heavy oil residue can collect dirt and cause problems though,
Regards,
Nick

[RJVB]

The brake and clutch line sleeves I know of do have a metal carcass, but you may be right that they're plastic on the inside. We use a non fatty lubricant on them to prevent them from getting obstructed with fat 'cakes' when the product starts to dry out. WD40 tends to do that (thanks to its paraffin like base I guess). I wasn't aware of WD40 damaging plastic or rubber, though ... at least not the ones found on motorcycles. (I use it in/on the switchgear, and also to hide small scratches on the black matte plastic parts ... does wonders for that )

I think I read about the use of silicone oil on airsoft-entrepot.fr, and this is what they propose for maintenance: https://www.airsoft-entrepot.fr/cons...fication_.html

The silicone lubricant I have is called 3-en-un, and is apparently made by the WD40 company : http://www.3-en-un.fr/dynamic-3-EN-U...=2004&cid=2008 (you'll have to scroll down, and it says little about composition).

Haven't used it on my Webley Premier, though (some cleaning with WD40, and just a few wee drops of good sunflower salad oil on the moving parts, awaiting something better).

[magicniner]

Silicone lube is used in the gas of Airsoft pistols - the link you've posted is right, I don't think it's wise in CO2 pistols unless you apply other lubes elsewhere - Pellgunoil or similar gets nearly everywhere and is beneficial for all the parts it reaches,
Regards,
Nick

[RJVB]

I think most of the Airsofts they sell use CO2

[magicniner]

I think most of the Airsofts they sell use CO2

Obviously with your superior knowlege you are aware that Airsoft defines not just a bore size and projectile type but a power level of less than 1Joule, please provide a list of the available CO2 powered Airsoft Pistols to which you refer which produce less than 1Joule energy whilst running on CO2

[RJVB]

I think sometimes I think too much (and therefore I am too much? )