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To be honest the only ling barrel gun that I have seen that would appeal to me is the 1911 .22rf but then that is an semi auto pistol all of the revolvers just look clumsy and heavy for me a pistol/revolver should not have more than a 6.5 inch barrel I am not knocking people who have taken up the long barrel versions its just not for me.
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i collect antique obsolete transitional revolvers, there are some true bits of history to be had, and the fact they dont have to be butchered by deactivating is a big attraction.
my favorite so far which i may be selling
is a very rare german made 7shot S&W model 2 .32 rimfire, cased and gold gilt, is there a market for it on here? as times are tight tbh. it wont be cheap though.
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What year was it made? You could sell it to an American collector, with no legal hassle, if it was made in 1898 or earlier.Originally Posted by Sswhack
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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at a guess 1865-70, theres no markings apart from a 7, which is repeated in several places, which could be a serial number or model code. are there any experts in european proof markings on here that might tell me more on its origins? i'll start a thread on it later.
i'd rather keep it in the UK Jim, these things are rare enough over here, i cant be a part of the lessening of gun numbers, i'd never sleep at night.
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Yes.
Post pics or email me if you are shy.
tac
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I can identify with that.at a guess 1865-70, theres no markings apart from a 7, which is repeated in several places, which could be a serial number or model code. are there any experts in european proof markings on here that might tell me more on its origins? i'll start a thread on it later.
i'd rather keep it in the UK Jim, these things are rare enough over here, i cant be a part of the lessening of gun numbers, i'd never sleep at night.
Jim
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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So Whats the recent trend with Obsolete Caliber and the Smith & Wesson .44 Russian Revolvers ???
6 months and before these could be picked up for reasonable money
A refurbished nickle for around the £1k mark
A decent Blued for a lot less
A nice original for £1.5K max
Looking at the web sites and dealers it seems these are now going for £3k / £4K and up !!!!!!
A nice what appeared to be original blued was on Gunstar a moth ago private sale at just over a grand
I thought that was to much ??
it was sold almost immediately and re appeared for sale by a dealer at £2.2k !!!
AND SOLD AGAIN !!!!!!
Is there a massive serge in decent obsolete revolvers commanding ridiculous prices due to the economic climate being a better than money in the bank or what ??
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
Hard to say why. I've noticed the same trend in pinfires in the US, though. Just a few years ago they were a dirt-cheap, unwanted-stepchild to collectors. Now, prices are heading upwards.
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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Do you have any percussion revolvers that were converted to cartridge, Sswhack? I'm referring of course to a conversion done in the 1870's or thereabouts!
I lot of percussion revolvers were converted to the new-fangled cartridge ignition system. I always felt this would be an interesting collection specialty.
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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No Jim unfortunately, ive seen some nice Colt Navy conversions to .38 rimfire id be allowed to bring in though, but they command too high a price to think about at the moment.
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I might look into these. They would be an interesting item to collect, and very eye-catching, I would think: but yes, I'd imagine that the prices are astronomical.
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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Just about given up on deacts but just got two obsolete revolvers a Remington 1858 and a cooper 3rd model
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1439013...7630252305042/
David
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I haven't actually collected de-acts, I just happen to have seven here in yUK by default. Default was Thomas Hamilton's of course, may he fester in hell.
They are -
1. My very first P08, 1918 all-matching and 95% condition and matching magazine bought from Gordon Forrest in Shrewsbury in 1974.
2. My last P08, a 1942 byf42 all-matching except for magazine and 98% condition.
3. A .44 mag Ruger Redhawk that I won in the Christmas raffle at the Berlin R&G at Christmas 1981.
4. A .44 Mag Smith & Wesson Model 29 4" - mint.
5. A .44 Mag Smith & Wesson Model 29 6" nickel-plated - formerly owned by a relative in Israel - good condition and used.
6. A .357 Mag Smith & Wesson Model 686 Trophy with the four position quick-set foresight and Wilson work-over.
7. A 1939 civilian police contract 9mmK Walther PP and original holster, formerly the property of the Vienna special Branch - 95% condition.
Nothing special there then, by comparison with a Colt cartridge conversion, but I'm not going to part with any of them - they ALL have stories to tell to those who want to listen.
tac
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A couple of beauties there, David!
Jim
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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No.
Couldn't afford them alongside live firearms. The nicer, pre-95 spec deacts are often very expensive, as are the more modern obsolete calibre revolvers.
Oddest obsolete calibre firearm I've seen was an early Spanish 1911 copy. It was a good few years ago and I wasn't sure of the legality of it. Never seen another obsolete calibre self-loading pistol.
Doubt it.
I visit a few places that deal with S5 and S7 firearms, and they won't let people near the S7 eligible stuff without authority to purchase.
They certainly do a real number on them these days. Some of the recent deacts I've seen didn't even have moving slides, or bolt carriers, etc.
The revolvers are a bit of an acquired taste.
I don't really notice much difference between the feel of the LBRs and the feel of standard 6" inch revolvers. You have some extra weight and air resistance (if that makes sense) from the increased barrel length.
Most people particularly object to the brace that's fitted to Taurus revolvers, but grip and clothing can work around the brace and help offset some of the weight.
The .22LR pistols have better quality options that the typical revolver choices and you'll also save on the nuisances involved with centrefire ammunition.
Is that Corsham in Wiltshire you're living in? My club is very big on blackpowder pistols and revolvers, and a few people have LBRs. Unfortunately they shoot all this near Salisbury, although quite a few people travel there from Southampton, or northern Wiltshire.
Worth a visit if you're interested in either type of firearm.
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