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    i collect antique obsolete transitional revolvers, there are some true bits of history to be had, and the fact they dont have to be butchered by deactivating is a big attraction.
    my favorite so far which i may be selling
    is a very rare german made 7shot S&W model 2 .32 rimfire, cased and gold gilt, is there a market for it on here? as times are tight tbh. it wont be cheap though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sswhack View Post
    i collect antique obsolete transitional revolvers, there are some true bits of history to be had, and the fact they dont have to be butchered by deactivating is a big attraction.
    my favorite so far which i may be selling
    is a very rare german made 7shot S&W model 2 .32 rimfire, cased and gold gilt, is there a market for it on here? as times are tight tbh. it wont be cheap though.
    What year was it made? You could sell it to an American collector, with no legal hassle, if it was made in 1898 or earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim McArthur View Post
    What year was it made? You could sell it to an American collector, with no legal hassle, if it was made in 1898 or earlier.
    at a guess 1865-70, theres no markings apart from a 7, which is repeated in several places, which could be a serial number or model code. are there any experts in european proof markings on here that might tell me more on its origins? i'll start a thread on it later.
    i'd rather keep it in the UK Jim, these things are rare enough over here, i cant be a part of the lessening of gun numbers, i'd never sleep at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sswhack View Post
    ...are there any experts in european proof markings on here that might tell me more on its origins?
    Yes.

    Post pics or email me if you are shy.

    tac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sswhack View Post
    at a guess 1865-70, theres no markings apart from a 7, which is repeated in several places, which could be a serial number or model code. are there any experts in european proof markings on here that might tell me more on its origins? i'll start a thread on it later.
    i'd rather keep it in the UK Jim, these things are rare enough over here, i cant be a part of the lessening of gun numbers, i'd never sleep at night.
    I can identify with that.

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    .44 Russian !!!!!!!!!!

    So Whats the recent trend with Obsolete Caliber and the Smith & Wesson .44 Russian Revolvers ???

    6 months and before these could be picked up for reasonable money

    A refurbished nickle for around the £1k mark
    A decent Blued for a lot less
    A nice original for £1.5K max

    Looking at the web sites and dealers it seems these are now going for £3k / £4K and up !!!!!!

    A nice what appeared to be original blued was on Gunstar a moth ago private sale at just over a grand
    I thought that was to much ??

    it was sold almost immediately and re appeared for sale by a dealer at £2.2k !!!

    AND SOLD AGAIN !!!!!!

    Is there a massive serge in decent obsolete revolvers commanding ridiculous prices due to the economic climate being a better than money in the bank or what ??

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    Hard to say why. I've noticed the same trend in pinfires in the US, though. Just a few years ago they were a dirt-cheap, unwanted-stepchild to collectors. Now, prices are heading upwards.
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    Absolutely Jim

    I have also noticed the same with small rim fire pocket revolvers
    Still around the £250 mark private sale but £450 dealer
    A year ago these rim and pin fire pistols where around the £150 mark

    On the S&W .44 Russian I have noticed that even in the US they are rocketing in price !!

    Is it the big interest in Cowboy action and the easy adaption of .44 cases ?

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sswhack View Post
    i collect antique obsolete transitional revolvers, there are some true bits of history to be had, and the fact they dont have to be butchered by deactivating is a big attraction.
    Do you have any percussion revolvers that were converted to cartridge, Sswhack? I'm referring of course to a conversion done in the 1870's or thereabouts!

    I lot of percussion revolvers were converted to the new-fangled cartridge ignition system. I always felt this would be an interesting collection specialty.
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    No Jim unfortunately, ive seen some nice Colt Navy conversions to .38 rimfire id be allowed to bring in though, but they command too high a price to think about at the moment.

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    I might look into these. They would be an interesting item to collect, and very eye-catching, I would think: but yes, I'd imagine that the prices are astronomical.
    Last edited by Jim McArthur; 25-06-2012 at 02:45 PM.
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    Just about given up on deacts but just got two obsolete revolvers a Remington 1858 and a cooper 3rd model

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/1439013...7630252305042/

    David

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    I haven't actually collected de-acts, I just happen to have seven here in yUK by default. Default was Thomas Hamilton's of course, may he fester in hell.

    They are -

    1. My very first P08, 1918 all-matching and 95% condition and matching magazine bought from Gordon Forrest in Shrewsbury in 1974.

    2. My last P08, a 1942 byf42 all-matching except for magazine and 98% condition.

    3. A .44 mag Ruger Redhawk that I won in the Christmas raffle at the Berlin R&G at Christmas 1981.

    4. A .44 Mag Smith & Wesson Model 29 4" - mint.

    5. A .44 Mag Smith & Wesson Model 29 6" nickel-plated - formerly owned by a relative in Israel - good condition and used.

    6. A .357 Mag Smith & Wesson Model 686 Trophy with the four position quick-set foresight and Wilson work-over.

    7. A 1939 civilian police contract 9mmK Walther PP and original holster, formerly the property of the Vienna special Branch - 95% condition.

    Nothing special there then, by comparison with a Colt cartridge conversion, but I'm not going to part with any of them - they ALL have stories to tell to those who want to listen.

    tac
    Last edited by tacfoley; 23-06-2012 at 09:28 PM.

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    Jim McArthur is offline Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
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    They do indeed, Tac. Some great pieces there!

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by dahtunnel View Post
    Just about given up on deacts but just got two obsolete revolvers a Remington 1858 and a cooper 3rd model

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/1439013...7630252305042/

    David
    A couple of beauties there, David!

    Jim
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