dont get me wrong cammo, its nice to be able to program a charge in and just keep loading your brass, as it saves time, if you have a safe load and your shooting foxes out to say 200 the difference in charge should not make that much difference in a large case, but if you loading something like a .17rem fire ball the i would prefere the beams, i think most on here would agree you cannot beat a good set.....


tony