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aah okay, the hogan is know where near as quiet as the twink on mine.
i shot my elite today and am please to report it is a pleasure to shoot, i got a very large rabbit, the biggest i've ever shot (heavier than the ripley elite kitted out!) and a crow, not bad at all for using some non tested pellets and a average scope...
i would definately reccommend this gun....
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my ripley elite is shooting perfectly. no problems what so ever. would put it up against any other rifle
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