Gamo Centre and Target Pistol

[clarky]

Interestingly my efforts to match the Gamo Center were realised with an LP53 I loaned at my club last night.
It really demands repeatable holding and general good technique but matched the Center when using RWS10 last night. Fabulous trigger control, difficult recoil but mastered it after around 100 shots. 53 is running on a nicely run in leather washer at 405fps high.
Did not find the HW70 so clever in my hands. Convinced I would but trigger control trickier. Cannot decide if its down to grip and balance (effecting trigger control) or trigger per say here.
In final conclusion I think its a combination of grip type (53 and Centre being similar) affording good trigger control on decent triggers. Sight pictures comparable. Velocity comparable.
Miserable effort with a Turkish Tempest (as control)

[zooma]

Sounds like we should give the LP53 a serious try then

[clarky]

Sounds like we should give the LP53 a serious try then

I have not participated in any of the shoots on here but we hold similar shoots at my club....with similar results.
Nobody can shoot the rear moving piston stuff (Tempests, 45 and an ABAS) well which surprised us but it became apparent that the supposed advantage of rear moving recoil brings with it unforeseen secondary recoil.
The 53 does buck upward (proven because the rear sight leaf is known to spring up out of its ball seating on rare occasion) but it does seem to be just one directional. The rest is probably down to fine trigger control once one has become accustomed to it. My assessment of the once forgotten Center, is it has a combination of useful plus points coming together without anyone really noticing. Namely, decent trigger, long site base typical to a fully fledged competition pistol, low mainspring power moving forward and great balance. Grip is semi target too.
Ultimately both trounced by a SSP from a quality shooter but that's the thing. An average shooter will not get anymore out of the SSP/sledge without good technique. All these guns being as potentially as accurate as each other on the basis of consistent velocity terms. Its how we corrupt them with our handling.

[Nyctophiliac]

I have found much the same with my pistols over the years.

The Centre and the LP53 are the most repeatably accurate guns I have ever owned, single handed.

My Webleys have much bigger groups and my old HW45 (now deceased!) was better than the Webs but not as good as the Gamo.

So for me it's the LP53 first, then Gamo as backup.

Love to try a spring Feinwerkbau or an Original someday.

[clarky]

I have found much the same with my pistols over the years.

The Centre and the LP53 are the most repeatably accurate guns I have ever owned, single handed.

My Webleys have much bigger groups and my old HW45 (now deceased!) was better than the Webs but not as good as the Gamo.

So for me it's the LP53 first, then Gamo as backup.

Love to try a spring Feinwerkbau or an Original someday.

There really is a considerable leap from the springers to the guns you mention but only in so much of the ease of use and more forgiving nature....not potentials. We found virtually no difference in consistency of velocity between pretty much all the guns mentioned here, indeed we actually realised our Turkish Tempest as being the best in this regard with barely a 5fps extreme spread across 5 shots. The potential is there but only one club member can tame it to within half the group size of the Gamo. I was hopeless with the gun but the guy has owned all the Webley variants since the 70s to be fair.