The Muscle Power League - whats that then?

[I. J.]

Last night we checked to see how the MPL scoring would work in real life - and the results were quite surprising. In the MPL any card shot with a recoiless pistol will score DOWN when a shot touches or cuts a line.
A good card shot at 10 metres with a recoiless pistol that would normally score a 47, when scored DOWN could easilly become a 43 depending on the pellet cutting or touching a line........and so on.
If the same card could be shot with a recoiling pistol the score would be 47 plus 1 point bonus = 48 !
This should encourage the recoiling pistol shooters a fair bit as not only will a shot that touches or cuts a line score UP - a further 1 point bonus is also added to every card shot with a recoiling pistol.
With a recoiless pistol it is fair to say that it will be almost impossible to score a 10 as the shot would have to be dead central and not touching the line at all. Most 10 shots that are scored in the normal way are not actually "perfect" 10's - but in the MPL - with a recoiless pistol - they need to be!
It looks like this will be a very "different" competition to the usual pistol comps we have ever shot in before, and it should not only be good fun but will also encourage the use of some of the older pistols that have been left on the shelf for far too long.

......and given the scoring example above - it may pay to take another look at that recoiling pistol again after all !

At least with a recoiling pistol any 10 hit will actually score a 10 irrespective of how central the shot is placed within the scoring ring......and so on.......

Thats political speak!
In layman and pistol persons language - YOU HAVENT A CAT IN HELLS CHANCE - of scoring a ten with a recoilless pistol.
Now, wheres my Wobbly Webley?

ATB
Ian

[zooma]

Thats political speak!
In layman and pistol persons language - YOU HAVENT A CAT IN HELLS CHANCE - of scoring a ten with a recoilless pistol.
Now, wheres my Wobbly Webley?

ATB
Ian

There you go - now you need a nice .177 Webley to be competetive - I knew you would see the light !

I have a nice .177 Junior I could let you borrow - the posh version with a rifled barrel!

[I. J.]

I have a nice .177 Junior I could let you borrow - the posh version with a rifled barrel!

Did Webley ever produce a NICE Junior (Senior, Premier, Hurricane, Tempest....). The only ones Ive come across are barrel bending , leg trapping, linkage snapping , 'bog door trigger latched' and inaccurate pistols which are much sought after as collectable items for people with rose tinted glasses.

I may be gone for some time.

ATB
Ian

[RobinC]

Thats political speak!
In layman and pistol persons language - YOU HAVENT A CAT IN HELLS CHANCE - of scoring a ten with a recoilless pistol.
Now, wheres my Wobbly Webley?

ATB
Ian

I havn't shot pistol now for two years but seeing this banter I'm really tempted to get out my Wobley Premier or the Walther LP53, is there any prize money?
The problem with the Wobley is more trigger weight and crap sights, so if I succomb to temptation it will probably be the LP53, now if you added a +5 point a card for a Wobley?
We can't make a five person team from Norwich who will do it, now looking again I can't see the teams of five so did I misread that or have you amended it? Can we use false names and only tell you the real identity at the end!!!
Robin

[zooma]

Hi Robin,

It would be great if you can encourage a few of your club members to join you and "have a go".

The rules are displayed on the first post of this thread and will also be displayed on the RMT section of the bobsairguns site permanently over the next few days.

You can see from the postings that this is not so much a deadly serious competition - more the excuse to dust off those classic .177 air pistols and use the MPL as another excuse to use them again. ( as well as an oportunity to have some fun with each other on this site).

The competition is open to all, but I admit I hope it will be used as an excuse to badger almost anyone that sets foot inside the club door to borrow a springer ( or SSP), give the club a quid once a month and join in with the fun.

I am not saying Olympic champions would not be welcome - but lets face it - it is not likely to be their scene now is it? But I would like to encourage regular club members and beginners ( and those that only shoot rifle normally) to spend enough time to put 5 shots on 4 cards ( hope this is not too difficult for some to understand!) during the last week of each month.

Not exactly too time consuming I would suggest, and it should be taken as a light hearted oportunity to get every club member involved - at least on some occasions - if not every month.

The size of the teams does not matter ( more the merrier) as the total score from each club will be divided by the numbers of shooters in the club that take part each month to produce the club average - and it is this that will be used for the inter-club match each month.

The individual scores can be used for an internal monthly club competition, and the top 5 from each club each month can represent the club in the Elite League that will close at the end of the year to produce the 2012 Elite League Champion Club. ...then we start again next year - and so on.

At the moment there is only RMTC and Rivvy taking part - so one of them will be the MPL Elite Club Champion this year - unless others such as your Norwich Club would like to join in the fray to make it a 3 way fight........

.oh - and we may well reserve the right to modify any clubs scores that look just too serious to be in involving club members at all levels as this would be against the spirit of the "competition"- but hopefully this action will never be required.

All clubs should try to also include average, non serious club pistol shooters and beginners. This is why we prefer 10 or more shooters from each club whenever possible as it will have a signifiant affect on the clubs declared monthly average score and help to even things out a bit.

As far as RMTC go we don't have any "elite" club pistol shooters (yet), and as yet I am not so convinced Rivvy have any either so it should just be good old fashioned fun and an excuse to play with the old toys again.

[I. J.]

As far as RMTC go we don't have any "elite" club pistol shooters, and as yet I am not so convinced Rivvy have either so it should just be good old fashioned fun and an excuse to play with the old toys again.

Rivvy have some exceptional HFT shooters and a couple of really good pistol shooters but Im presently in the process of 'nobbling' them. Alls fair in love, war and pistol shooting.

ATB
Ian

[zooma]

Rivvy have some exceptional HFT shooters and a couple of really good pistol shooters but Im presently in the process of 'nobbling' them. Alls fair in love, war and pistol shooting.

ATB
Ian

Good Man - "really good pistol shooters" - we can't have any of that now can we?

[I. J.]

Good Man - "really good pistol shooters" - we can't have any of that now can we?

A good leveller is telling your opposition a quick Tommy Cooper type one liner while they are competing.

ATB
Ian

[zooma]

A good leveller is telling your opposition a quick Tommy Cooper type one liner while they are competing.

ATB
Ian

...or watching you trying to fill your RWS pellet sorter.

It works with me every time!

[zooma]

I havn't shot pistol now for two years but seeing this banter I'm really tempted to get out my Wobley Premier or the Walther LP53, is there any prize money?
The problem with the Wobley is more trigger weight and crap sights, so if I succomb to temptation it will probably be the LP53, now if you added a +5 point a card for a Wobley?
We can't make a five person team from Norwich who will do it, now looking again I can't see the teams of five so did I misread that or have you amended it? Can we use false names and only tell you the real identity at the end!!!
Robin

You already have a fairly comprehensive choice of MPL legal pistols in your collection.........but there is no prize money on offer (unless you would like to sponsor some!).

The FWB Model 65, Walther LPM 1, and FAS 604 all qaulify for the recoiless pistol choice (score DOWN), and the Wobley Premier (good luck with that one), Walther LP53 could be your recoiling pistol choice ( score UP plus one point per card).

Maybe time for some test shooting to see how the scores work-out with the recoiling and recoiless scoring differences. From what we have seen so far, the system does give the recoiling pistols a very fair chance.

[RobinC]

Thanks Bob
If I do it it will be a recoiling, the Lp53 is such fun and the scores not that much different, the good shots still go in with it it just seems to help the flyers on their way a bit! As you know the pistol here is taken a bit serious, but I'm trying to talk two others regular PCP shooters who both occassional just for fun shoot Wobleys into doing it, so we may we able to make a 3 man "Team Recoiling"
Don't worry our top people are too busy training to have any fun!
Robin

[zooma]

Thanks Bob
If I do it it will be a recoiling, the Lp53 is such fun and the scores not that much different, the good shots still go in with it it just seems to help the flyers on their way a bit! As you know the pistol here is taken a bit serious, but I'm trying to talk two others regular PCP shooters who both occassional just for fun shoot Wobleys into doing it, so we may we able to make a 3 man "Team Recoiling"
Don't worry our top people are too busy training to have any fun!
Robin

Sounds like the start of a plan........!

Don't forget to pick on the guys with the long stick's ( rifles) as well - they might just enjoy a bit of fun as well. They are probably allowed to smile once a month so try to get them recruited too!