Of interest to everyone in the uk

[Huertecilla]

BUT there is a massive difference between driving well within the limits of the car and some, would be hard case packing a shoota.

Indeed; a car lulls users in a false sense of security, packs far more Joules, kills a lót more people.

Speeding with a car is VASTLY more of a risc than owning a gun. Just do the maths on the extra Joules.

A gun furthermore is diametrically different form a car in that a gun is perceived as dangerous wherras cars are not hence the useres are fundamentally treating them differently. Cras ´provoke´ risc behaviour, guns the contrary.

Me, I have raced anything on wheels for 23 years and don´t speed on the open road; if anything I am a moving road block únder the max. The max is after all just thát; a maximum and it is ok to go a bit slower. I strongly objet to speeding motorist overtaking as those are fáctually endangering the occupants of the overtaken car.
The weight of acar x speed = adn véry few drivers are capable of controlling their vehicle if shit happens. I am yet don´t speed but I would want a live fire arm to be able to defend the home/family as law enforcement doesn´t.

Attempting to deminish crime by banning guns is like ditto drunk driving by making it more difficult for sober people to obtain a driver´s license.

[Kyoto]

Completed as requested

ATB

Ken

[Bonzo]

What good are laws when you have the blatant disregard of the law like this.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...s-kids-1857773

All the licensing, by laws etc will do nothing to protect the public.

[big yin]

That is shocking.

[shellymad]

Interesting and surprising figures - thanks for sharing

shelly

[zerogravitas]

Make it difficult enough to own a firearm legally and only criminals will have guns.

If we lived in a free country I rather doubt I'd find a reason to buy an airgun. Pests in your yard? Pop down to Walmart to pick up a .22 LR.

[Tommyd345]

That's surprising! I suppose that if people saw these stats they would still believe the media!

[NTSOG]

G'day,

zerogravitas wrote: "Make it difficult enough to own a firearm legally and only criminals will have guns."

There was an incident a few weeks ago in NSW [Australia] when an armed thug [well known to Police] attempted to force entry into a farm house having tried the same thing a little earlier at another farm house where he was driven off by the owner wielding a 'dangerous' hockey stick. The second farmer 'subdued' the thug by displaying an unloaded rifle - he did not point the rifle at the thug. The Police confiscated the farmer's firearms in consequence.

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/4...e-at-his-home/

It's also rather amusing that the standard Police response is to ring the emergency phone number [000 in Australia], but if one lives way out of town on a farm [as I do] the Police will never arrive in time - a rural home owner is on his own.

Jim

via Ballarat
Australia

[pellet sniper]

please gentlemen let us rejoice in the fact that there has been no fatality
in the uk caused by an air gun .
and that sub 12 air gunners can enjoy most of the shooting skills
in their back yards and permissions.
and that we have sub 12 where others in europe have only 6

its damn good safe fun !! i love it

[Born Again]

please gentlemen let us rejoice in the fact that there has been no fatality

Are you sure ?

[WineRack 97KT]

I've not seen any real correlation between a nation's gun laws and a reduction of murder rates or violent crime in general. The authorities know this, too. It's not about crime. That's a red herring. My considered opinion. Hope I'm not being too political here.

Rob

[Kuyajonathan]

I've not seen any real correlation between a nation's gun laws and a reduction of murder rates or violent crime in general. The authorities know this, too. It's not about crime. That's a red herring. My considered opinion. Hope I'm not being too political here.

Rob

The politicians Keen to be seen to be doing something, even if it's not effective. media jump on the bandwagon when there is an incident urging 'action'.
Look at recent crossbow armed intruder at Windsor , journalist showed how easy it was to purchase legally " killer cross bows" . Something Petti Patel , Home Secretary is urgently looking at crossbow legislation.

[WineRack 97KT]

The politicians Keen to be seen to be doing something, even if it's not effective. media jump on the bandwagon when there is an incident urging 'action'.
Look at recent crossbow armed intruder at Windsor , journalist showed how easy it was to purchase legally " killer cross bows" . Something Petti Patel , Home Secretary is urgently looking at crossbow legislation.

Precisely! It's the same pattern everywhere.

Rob

[Clank]

Gun crime is only loosely linked to gun ownership rates. Its more about a culture of criminal violence than anything else.

When I was a kid we used to take our sheath knives and Gat guns (Webley pistols only if you were very rich) to school to play with at breaktime. Can you imagine that now! Only recently a guy was arrested for walking near a school with an air rifle, oh how times have changed and sometimes not for the better either.