Making a Feinwerkbau Model 65 Kick like a Mule.

[zooma]

The MPL series is gaining interest, and several of us are beginning to think a good non recoiless pistol could be the winning combination if we could find one with a good match trigger to take full advantage of the scoring UP instead of DOWN system applied to the recoiless pistols - plus the bonus point per card as well!

The Model 65 when new was supplied with a blanking plate and screw to stop the recoiless action working by blocking the movement of the sledge. A taller front sight element was also included for use with the pistol in this configuration.

This feature was not continued with the new Model 80 when it came out, so we were concerned that maybe the extra stress on the frame caused by blocking the sledge may have put too much strain on the main frame, and maybe after sustained use could also cause the threaded screw to tear out of the casting or even cause the main casting to fracture?

I doubt many people ever shot the Model 65 in this "blocked" configuration for any length of time, but we would like to hear from anyone that has, or who has witnessed any damage caused to a Model 65 due to shooting it this way.

No news could be good news as far as we are concerned as it could be a "winner" for use in the MPL.

[mikec4]

If you consider the high quality of FWB pistols ( Model 65 and 80 both supposed to be capable of 1,000,000 shots!) perhaps the blocking of the recoil sledge will not be deleterious to the longevity of the pistol.

If you want to make things even more difficult, change the trigger weight to 1360 gms - this I believe, in combination with the recoiling effect, was to provide a cost effective way of practice for centre fire pistol disciplines.

ATB

Mike.

[zooma]

If you consider the high quality of FWB pistols ( Model 65 and 80 both supposed to be capable of 1,000,000 shots!) perhaps the blocking of the recoil sledge will not be deleterious to the longevity of the pistol.

If you want to make things even more difficult, change the trigger weight to 1360 gms - this I believe, in combination with the recoiling effect, was to provide a cost effective way of practice for centre fire pistol disciplines.

ATB

Mike.

Tonight we can see how Ian gets on with his Model 65 with the sledge blocked, but I think this has some good MPL potential - my only concern is the longevity of the pistol if used on a regular long-term basis in the MPL with this "kicking" format.

.......mind you - if we can find some more Model 65's that shoot as well as Ian's does for £140 it does reduce the concerns somewhat!

[I. J.]

Initial impressions are, after a few shots over the chrono, that Im glad its not a permanent fixture. I think the old 'chitty chitty clang clang' 65 will soon be reverting to the old sliding sledge again pretty soon.
All this for a few extra points on the M.P.L.

ATB
Ian

[RobinC]

I used to use my 65 blocked and also on 1380 gms as c/f practice back in the good old days when we shot centre fire. I then bought a Walther LP53 specificaly for centre fire practice.
I did also try it recently and the scores were fairly similar as long as the concentration was on technique, I don't think the recoil was as fierce as the LP53.
All good fun.
Robin

[Garvin]

I've never seen a mod 65 advertised with this sort of damage to the main frame (out of many hundreds for sale over the years on eGun, including 'parts' guns) and I'd be surprised if the 65 wasn't up to repeated use with the anti-recoil mechanism blocked. I suspect the feature was dropped on the model 80 more because by the late '70s/early '80s, competition for that market was hotting up and the cost/competition downsides of including it were too great.