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    Quote Originally Posted by turtle View Post
    Yes, don't bother with a BSA springer. Not even close to a HW/TX.

    I've also owned a Venom HW80 Lazaglide which was a beauty and so smooth.

    FWIW, the standard TX200 was the most stable gun on aim of any I have used. The HC version is shorter and lighter and the lack of muzzle weight makes it a little less rock solid standing. With the TX guns the stock is a little deeper in the fore end than the HWs, unless the 97 has a deeper stock than I remember, which means much better handling when shooting off your knee with a padded glove. This is how I shoot when using hides (with backrest) and so I found the TX200 nicer to shoot in this way than the HW80 Lazaglide. It just sat at the right elevation because the base of the stock is pretty well level with the bottom of the trigger guard.

    Its a shame Air Arms do not make TX200s in .20, as with 11.5grain H&N FTT you'd really have the perfect hunting springer! I love the calibre.

    The other option might be a used Theoben Gas Ram. Again, I'd avoid .177 in such guns and stick to .22, .20 because they operate under lower load and shoot with less 'snap'. I once had a scirocco 2000 in .177. Whilst deadly accurate, it really did have very snappy (but quick) recoil and just felt harsh. I believe they no longer make the ultra carbines in .177 for this reason, but might be mistaken.
    A few points here. I agree that .20 is the ideal compromise calibre in legal limit and that it is a pity that AA don't seem to want to bother with .20 but then again they don't actually want to bother very much with left handers either. Unless they get round to offering a Pro Sport in full left hand I shall continue to make this point on every occasion where it is relevant to the debate.
    I am unaware that the Evolution Ultra carbine-formerly known as the Fenman- from Theoben isn't offered in .177. I certainly have owned several Fenmen in .177 with both 10" and 7.5" barrels. You are right that they can be just TOO snappy especially those with the 7.5" barrels as well as being hard to cock. However my experience shows that reducing the power to around 11 ft lb transforms the accuracy and handling whilst making only a tiny reduction in terminal energy and hunting effectiveness. Most I have tested turn out to have over-pressured gasrams and that probably accounts for most of the negative comments around this fine rifle. However in my view the .20 Fenman is a worthy contender for the title of 'best self contained general purpose legal limit' air rifle on the market today. It really is THAT good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapidnick View Post
    A few points here. I agree that .20 is the ideal compromise calibre in legal limit and that it is a pity that AA don't seem to want to bother with .20 but then again they don't actually want to bother very much with left handers either. Unless they get round to offering a Pro Sport in full left hand I shall continue to make this point on every occasion where it is relevant to the debate.
    I am unaware that the Evolution Ultra carbine-formerly known as the Fenman- from Theoben isn't offered in .177. I certainly have owned several Fenmen in .177 with both 10" and 7.5" barrels. You are right that they can be just TOO snappy especially those with the 7.5" barrels as well as being hard to cock. However my experience shows that reducing the power to around 11 ft lb transforms the accuracy and handling whilst making only a tiny reduction in terminal energy and hunting effectiveness. Most I have tested turn out to have over-pressured gasrams and that probably accounts for most of the negative comments around this fine rifle. However in my view the .20 Fenman is a worthy contender for the title of 'best self contained general purpose legal limit' air rifle on the market today. It really is THAT good.
    Thanks Rapidnick.....more excellent advice, and another one for the try list!!

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