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    Thanks Andi - all offers of help are greatfully accepted.

    It could be very interesting.
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    God loves a Trier, Bob

    I’m still of the opinion that 16 point for a Springer is too many. All this SSP could still be gaining 5 extra points just does not wash, you have the same odds as losing 12 points. Inward scoring ok, 16 points start, not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocity View Post
    God loves a Trier, Bob

    I’m still of the opinion that 16 point for a Springer is too many. All this SSP could still be gaining 5 extra points just does not wash, you have the same odds as losing 12 points. Inward scoring ok, 16 points start, not for me.
    I agree with your sentiments - especially the first one about "God loves a Trier" and also have some concerns about the 4 points per card too - but not enough to stop us giving it a go in the next 6 month MPL season.

    The reasons for this are many and although this will keep the situtaion more or less as it is now, it may also shade the difference back slightly as it would have been possible (in theory at least) to actually gain up to 6 points per card using the old system, wheras with this new scoring system the maximum possible gain can only be 4 points!

    In real life, I am not expecting it to make much difference to what we have now, but any freak top end scores can only ever gain 4 points and not 6 as they can now.

    At the end of June we should look at it again, and with the new scoring system it will be much easier to make any adjustments (if they are needed) - and these don't have to be as big a change as a whole point either, so we can in future fine tune it much better than we can now with the old system - for example if we were to have a 3.5 point kicker bonus per card this would reduce the 4 card bonus to 14 from 16, and a 3.25 bonus would reduce it to 13, and a 3 point bonus would make it 12 points and so on.

    The new scoring system has a lot going for it and i think we should definately introduce it in January and start it with the +4 points per card and see how it shakes down by the end of June.
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    Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat stig View Post
    Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat stig View Post
    Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.
    The whole idea of the MPL is to provide a competition for the classic and inexpensive spring powered and SSP pistols that give everyone a fair chance - with or without a recoiless pistol.

    This is a very competetive and good series that not only give's the best competition at an affordable price - but also the best banter - which to some of us is even more important!

    If at the end of June 2013 (when the second MPL series is completed) we find that all the kickers are running away with it, or the opposite, that they become so disadvantaged they become uncompetetive (and it discourages anyone from using them), then it will be easy to tweak the bonus points either way in time for the third MPL series from July to December 2013......and so on.

    Not having a crystal ball is clearly a major disadvantage for me, but we have not done too badly this season and got things about right, and I rather expect we will be just as lucky again next season - but we will have made the scoring a lot easier for everyone to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat stig View Post
    Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.
    Suggest, that you may be as well, keeping your simple points to yourself.

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    Thanks for the advise, I'll try not to have an opinion in future! Wouldn't want to spoil what has been a fun comp to take part in. Oh is your pistol a ssp by any chance? Sorry couldn't resist happy shooting!

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    Merry Christmas - welcome to the 2013 MPL Scoring system

    The first round of the 2nd MPL series ( January - June 2013) see's the change to the inward scoring system for all types of MPL legal pistols.

    All Kickers gain a bonus 4 points per card during this period, but I share the concerns of Nocity and others that this may be just a little too kind to them and suggest we consider dropping this to a 3 (or even 2) point bonus for the start of the 3rd MPL series ( July - December 2013) - depending on what we see during the second series.

    We can all see how things pan-out between now and the start of the 3rd series, but we must encourage the use of the kickers as they are a very important element of our MPL series, but as more shooters turn to them and become ever more proficient with their use we do stand the danger of them "running away with it" and making it a positive disadvantage to shoot with a recoiless springer or SSP.

    The idea of the kicker bonus is to even-out the disadvantage of using a recoiling pistol - but NOT to the extent that the majority of pistols ( that are recoiless) become the disadvantaged class.

    Changing the scoring system to "inward scoring" for all types is a fairly significant change so we cannot know until after we have used it for a season just how this will work-out, so we will start with the new system and the 4 point kicker bonus and run with it for the second series, but we will look to see if we need to make a final "tweak" regarding the actual size of the kicker bonus before we start the third series in July2013.
    Last edited by zooma; 24-12-2012 at 02:22 PM.
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