I thought i'd indulge in some guilty pleasure before Christmas and buy myself a black powder revolver to see what all the fuss is about........looks, bang and lots of smoke. I settled for a Uberti Remington 1858 New Model Army as the club was selling one of their club guns off at a reasonable price. She is definately in need of a little tlc so i'll be giving her a complete clean withing the next week.
I'll be sticking with 777 as I had to sweet talk the Mrs enough just to get the gun let alone fill the house with the aroma of rotten eggs
I'm planning on starting with a 15 - 20 grain load (volume) with Trex over the top, any recommendations
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use .451 - .454 ball
email...... stephenbarrow@ntlworld.com
If you want the ball to actually come out of the end of the barrel like a thing that has been fired, and not piffed out like blowing snot out of your nostril, you'll up that charge to around 20gr and go on from there. I shooter 23gr of Triple 7 in my revolver for about 860fps. Our Italian buddies make the gun for sale mostly in the USA, and the fear of litigation resulting from overloading is a very real one there. Hence the recommendation that you load it like a fairy.Originally Posted by Livefast123
I thought i'd indulge in some guilty pleasure before Christmas and buy myself a black powder revolver to see what all the fuss is about........looks, bang and lots of smoke. I settled for a Uberti Remington 1858 New Model Army as the club was selling one of their club guns off at a reasonable price. She is definately in need of a little tlc so i'll be giving her a complete clean withing the next week.
I'll be sticking with 777 as I had to sweet talk the Mrs enough just to get the gun let alone fill the house with the aroma of rotten eggs
I'm planning on starting with a 15 - 20 grain load (volume) with Trex over the top, any recommendations
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And talking about overloading, it IS possible to really force as much as 38-40gr of BP into one of these guns, but it's a waste of good powder to do it. The bang is bigger and so is the group.
Most .44cal BP revolvers like around 30gr of FFFg BP, 25gr of Pyrodex P, and 22-23gr of Triple 7 - at least, mine do.
tac
Another recruit to the dark side - well done.
Watch out though - it gets addictive. I'm looking for my second BP pistol now...........
You are right it is addictive.
I started off with a BP revolver, then a rifle. I have never fancied a flintlock but I got one of them anyway and I really enjoy using it.
I was given a flintlock 16bore barrel in almost new condition that was made about 1864 in Belgium.Once it is fitted on a butt I will put it on my FAC.
It is so addictive that I now want to sell my "modern" rifles so I can buy a good muzzleloading "Rook & Rabbit" rifle.
Yes it is addictive.You have been warned.
In that case i'll start off with a 20 grain load, i'd prefer the bigger bang anyway
I've been wanting to buy one since I completed my probabtionary period but one had never come up at a decent price, I'm already eyeing up the .50 muzzleloading rifles that they sell in Midway UK............
So would you suggest a test load range of 20 - 25 grains 777?
Welcome to the muzzle loading world, don't worry you will soon be trading up to a Ruger Old Army
thats a nice pistol.
As I already noted - 20-23 grains of Triple 7 does me in my ROA. 20gr for conical and 23gr for RB.In that case i'll start off with a 20 grain load, i'd prefer the bigger bang anyway
I've been wanting to buy one since I completed my probabtionary period but one had never come up at a decent price, I'm already eyeing up the .50 muzzleloading rifles that they sell in Midway UK............
So would you suggest a test load range of 20 - 25 grains 777?
Of course, YOU must experiment - THAT, my friend, is half the fun!
tac
Then experiment I will!! If you don't have fun when you are shooting then whats the point........although a few range members would disagree
When I get a 2 foot muzzle flame i'll stop
I guess I must be about the luckiest shooter here, comparing my club with many of those that you guys actually suffer, judging by the number of remarks I read about -Then experiment I will!! If you don't have fun when you are shooting then whats the point........although a few range members would disagree
When I get a 2 foot muzzle flame i'll stop
1. Old fuddy-duddies on the range wanting to keep it like it was when 'I were a lad'.
2. Old fuddy-duddies on the range objecting to noise [excuse me? HEllOOOO? This is a GUN-club, not a crochet circle].
3. Old fuddy-duddies on the range getting all hissy at the lettering on the bottom of a cartridge case.
4. Old fuddy-duddies who know bugger-all about guns except what they read in 'Boys' own paper' of 1931.
5. Old fuddy-duddies who would only be happy is nobody shot anything but a prone .22rf, indoors, at 20 yards....and that was it.
6. And lastly, old fuddy-duddies who have been injected at birth with a virus that turns their mouth down and their ire up at the sight of anybody actually having fun shooting ANYTHING.
tac
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We have a number who give you the look if you stroke the trigger too fast, make a bang that is too loud or have a gun that looks like it could have been in a hunting situation..........luckily they are in the minority.
I believe that as I pay my membership fee that I can shoot what I want, as fast as I want and as loud as I want. I don't worry what others do as long as it is safe.
Looks like I am lucky too.
We have two separate shoots at my club, one for centrefire and one for muzzleloading..
There are some odd ones at the centrefire shoot, but I do not bother with it much these days, I prefer the muzzleloading shoot.
Everyone who goes to the muzzleloading shoot enjoy themselves and shoot all different kinds of firearms from repro's to originals, flintlock to percussion, with a few later blackpowder cartridge guns used as well.
Just check first the range you want to shoot it on allows .50 cal BP, I know a few round this way don't.
"I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Lets start with typewriters." - Frank Lloyd Wright (1867-1959)
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