Swedish Air rifles

[gedfinn 2]

Well Dave there seems to be a lot of differences in models and makers name , is yours the Excellent brand or the Bahco as per Ged,s , I was given all data from a friend in the Netherlands who has two models of the excellent rifle in 5.4mm ball shot ,he is not selling either of them so has no reason to say other than what is true in his case,Ric has a new one virtually unused he said that when he got it power was quite good
and it has a ten shot magazine , Ged said originally they were only in 4.5mm and his was smooth bored ,all the ones I have seen for sale have
been the 5.4mm lead ball and specified as rifled - paradox barrel,there a links on previous page for most of this and i have email from my friend confirming details of his , prices in Uk seem to be artifically high compared to EU countries and the states but not sure about customs problems
from states importing them , I had problem previously with UK customs importing a firing pin for one of my b/a rifles (firearm) they came to the house ,checked the firearm and my certificate but still kept the firing pin , since then i hav,nt ordered outside uk .

Hiya mate, & to clarify !
I didn,t say they were 4.5mm , ( I said mine were 4.4mm )
I said " MY " Bahco was 4.4 mm. & IS, Smooth bored,
I care what your mate says the output was or is ! I stated that mine in the smaller calibre was all out at 4 Fpe !!! I acknowledge that a larger calibre might give slightly higher output ! But not the quoted figures ?

I might add, I take offence that you with " No previous knowledge " Of these guns would suggest outputs & Or any other information, Albeit prices , outputs, & Calibres when you haven,t a clue !!!!
I tried to explain ,!!!!!!!!
I being the owner of one & A repairer of a few, You seem not to acknowledge this,
To cut to the quick,
They with the 19th century valving & Unassisted mechanical aid " As regards pumping "
Were & Never will be powerhouses ! EVER , Tell your mate !
Ged.

[Rob M]

I'm not so interested in the Excellent or Bahco rifles, would love an Excllent pistol though, I really like the look of them for some reason.

[hawkeye]

Ged you also stated "they are not Excellent rifles but copies of and they are not 5.4mm " did you not ?
As for no Knowledge of these rifles , I thought that was one of the objectives of a forum - to aquire and learn , I hav,nt seen any of the Bahco
rifles for sale or even owned by anyone other than you so I dispute your knowledge of your own rifle but I do take notice of all that is said and and shown in the way of photos etc , there a a few replies on this post which conflict information even on the Excellent rifles themselves
and there is different opinions on output both in pm I have had on here and previous posts but also on other forums ,take a look here -
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537...quot%3B+rifle-

[hawkeye]

For me it does,nt matter about the power output anyway , I just like the sound of them and their unique looks , I do need it to hunt with it

[Unframed Dave]

Mine is single shot, marked "Excellent C1" on barrel. Still haven't had chance to try it out accuracy wise, bear in mind this is open sights only (there are no dovetails) and they are fairly crude.

Dave

[Phil Russell]

I got one that would not pump up or hold air ... great fun sorting it.
The pump is basically an old style cycle pump and can be repaired as such. The inlet valve is like one of the old fashioned cycle inner tube valves that have a bit of rubber tubing on them to act as an air seal. But I did try a modern equivalent and found the thread was not quite the same. I found some new latex (?) tubing to seal the original ... from a fishing shop; the stuff fishermen use to go on floats to pass the line through. Works well. Resealing the exhaust valve was more of a challenge as you must get the seal just right. I made a new seal from a water tank ball valve seal. Not having 5.4mm ball/pellets, I started out using rolled up moist tissue balls to test my seals. At the start it just went 'phut' and travelled about 2 feet from the muzzle. Then I found a kid's paintbrush with a round plastic handle that was a perfect fit in the breech. So I cut some short lengths and used that. It took a long time to get it all right ... I shot the plastic bits into an old fleece I wear in the garden. Velocity was initially enough to go about 6ft and bounce off the fleece. But then I got it right as one plastic piece shot right through the fleece. Wonderful. This had taken about 4 days on and off.
Ammo: I have had no joy finding 5.4mm ball in the UK but they are available from H&N; or at least they list them on the website. I tried 'forcing' a 5.5 into the barrel but it was not good. So I made a 'sizer' to form 5.5 down to 5.4 and this works well.
So... if you can find one they are good fun but with that bicycle pump design I think they are quite hard to pump up above a plinking performance.
Cheers, Phil

[hawkeye]

I got one that would not pump up or hold air ... great fun sorting it.
The pump is basically an old style cycle pump and can be repaired as such. The inlet valve is like one of the old fashioned cycle inner tube valves that have a bit of rubber tubing on them to act as an air seal. But I did try a modern equivalent and found the thread was not quite the same. I found some new latex (?) tubing to seal the original ... from a fishing shop; the stuff fishermen use to go on floats to pass the line through. Works well. Resealing the exhaust valve was more of a challenge as you must get the seal just right. I made a new seal from a water tank ball valve seal. Not having 5.4mm ball/pellets, I started out using rolled up moist tissue balls to test my seals. At the start it just went 'phut' and travelled about 2 feet from the muzzle. Then I found a kid's paintbrush with a round plastic handle that was a perfect fit in the breech. So I cut some short lengths and used that. It took a long time to get it all right ... I shot the plastic bits into an old fleece I wear in the garden. Velocity was initially enough to go about 6ft and bounce off the fleece. But then I got it right as one plastic piece shot right through the fleece. Wonderful. This had taken about 4 days on and off.
Ammo: I have had no joy finding 5.4mm ball in the UK but they are available from H&N; or at least they list them on the website. I tried 'forcing' a 5.5 into the barrel but it was not good. So I made a 'sizer' to form 5.5 down to 5.4 and this works well.
So... if you can find one they are good fun but with that bicycle pump design I think they are quite hard to pump up above a plinking performance.
Cheers, Phil

Thanks Phil, very informative , where did you find yours ?