Quote Originally Posted by hotversion View Post
I do understand that we all like a bit of tuning,i myself have a b2,i dont think ive shot it in 2years,ther ok £30 but when they try and step it up a notch they just wasting there time,and the turkish guns are poor miles better than the chinese but still poor,and air gun reviews dont help,when i got back into air guns i bought a webley ags...the reviews would have you belive it was a capable air gun in truth it was CRAP,why not support are own fantastic guns,my advice would be get a b2 if your having fun and want somthing better,save up and buy a top end springer.
I was hoping to give the smk a hard time, but actually the hw has since had to have the spring out and reduced in size as it kept going up ......

If you pick up the xs20, or Diana copy at a fair price, and know you will have to spend a bit on them they are accurate rifles, albeit a bit more pellet fussy. Really HW Diana AA are going to have to make sure that at the prices the stuff goes out at, that a tune is an improvement rather than necessity, like it is as the moment. In fairness the AA stuff shoots ok 'out of thebox', but they only make lumping great under levers.

There was a time when everyone slated Japanses cars, remember early Datsun's ??

This was my thread, to give an honest take on the current state of play, as there are people in both camps who simply don't give an even handed review of stuff. The xs20 is not as good as the 95, but it's pretty well made and accurate, and didn't come with a factory flaw in the main tube either .....