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Thread: What would you like to see Airgunning manufacturers do in 2013???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaksGod View Post
    it would be nice to see the top manufactures actually turn up to the bigger gun shows or the ones that do to sell you a rifle.i went to a big show last year to buy a hw and could not as they did not bother.aa were there but you could not by a rifle of them either
    Talking of 'bothering', did you bother to check that the manufacturer/distributor you needed to buy from was going to be at the show and willing to sell direct?

    Attending shows is incredibly expensive for any manufacturer and seriously affects production, so attendances are budgeted for and limited. Always best to check before you make the trip.
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    Air arms bb please

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    would it not make more sense to sell something at the show to get some of the costs back ?
    aa s400k.177(tweaky regged) mtc mamba 3-12x44..theoben evo .22 mtc mamba lite 3-12x44..cp88 4"..s&w 4"

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    I'd like to see more English made air guns, designed for the British market, on the British market. And, more brits trying them, rather than relying on impressions gathered years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaksGod View Post
    would it not make more sense to sell something at the show to get some of the costs back ?
    Seriously, do you think that hasn't occurred to those who spend thousands to be at those shows? Think about it.

    Therefore, not selling direct must have strong reasoning behind it, surely? That reasoning involves not pissing-off the distributors and retailers who sell manufacturers' guns throughout the year.

    If they don't sell direct, there's a valid reason. It's not that they haven't thought of it, or they'd prefer not to regain some costs.
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    sorry not getting this argument as daystate were happily selling rifles
    aa s400k.177(tweaky regged) mtc mamba 3-12x44..theoben evo .22 mtc mamba lite 3-12x44..cp88 4"..s&w 4"

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    Another vote for AA to do a new Pro Elite with bore and stroke suited to 12 ft. lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaksGod View Post
    sorry not getting this argument as daystate were happily selling rifles
    Which obviously works for Daystate and its distributors. That doesn't mean the same applies for everyone.

    Why else would some manufacturers not sell direct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry D View Post
    Why else would some manufacturers not sell direct?
    He doesn't know.

    That's why he's asking..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunbag View Post
    He doesn't know.

    That's why he's asking..
    He didn't really ask as such.

    But I told him, anyway.
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    Some good quality pistols instead of all these poorly made CO2 replicas.

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    Manufacturers to start fitting adjustable cheekpiece risers on rifles as standard-I still cannot believe the stupidly low comb height on many rifles costing upwards of £600.00.
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    I don't always agree with TD, but on this he is absolutely right. The first rule in marketing that involves third parties such as distributors and retailers is, DON'T compete with your customers, ever. Your customers are the people that place orders with you and pay you. That is usually not the end user. The consumers are the market but the people who pay you are your customers.

    There was a time when you could scarcely find a new Theoben on a dealer's shelf anywhere. And when the company was quite prepared to sell direct to the mass market and bypass the retailer, why should the retailer put his money into being an unpaid showroom?
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    BSA to make a modern Bell Target rifle ,fixed barrel underlever,shooting at 6ftlbs and super smooth to cock and fire,with the merest nudge in the shoulder.
    Fitted with quality open sights or a choice of dioptres.

    It could be a true centenary rifle to celebrate the re-emergance of Bell Target.

    DING ,I can almost here the ring of the bell just thinking about it.

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    We keep asking for 12ftlb UK targeted rifles, with swept volumes etc optimal for the UK only.
    Given that all manufacturers need to sell all over the world, often to markets expecting higher power, such rfiles are only going to exist by accident. The clever maker builds a rifle to be able to supply high power to other markets and gives the UK a weak spring.

    There have been a couple rifles perfect for the UK, early hw77/97 and early tx200. But now the tx has a much higher power capability and even the 77/97 has an increased headroom, if only by a ftlb or so.

    12ftlb optimised new rifle by AA? Not a chance in hell.

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