Hi i have the opportunity of a nice walnut prosport in .177, in my spring guns i normally shoot .22. Having a bit of a read online i keep coming across comments saying 'its a bit hold sensitive in .177' ect regarding the prosport.
I know once mastered this isnt an issue but im looking for the best overall shooting experience. Im not bothered about the trajectory of the pellets at all so i dont want that to become part of the argument. I already shoot .177 .22 and .25. I am most interested in the shooting characteristics of the gun and which will give me the more smooth and pleasurable shooting experience. Any body had or shot both to compare? is there enough in it to sway it one way of the other? the gun isnt overly cheap and i would be happy to pay the extra few quid for a new .22 if it was worth doing
Sorry this isn't an answer but I'm watching this with interest as I've decided on a new Prosport for my next rifle too; just the decision on calibre to be made now...
Is this an urban myth? I've never owned a P/S, as I don't like the cocking action, but I've shot a fair few at the club.The only thing I can think of is that the balance point is a bit further back than, say, a TX or '97, so there may be a bit more muzzle flip, but is it noticable? Lighter rifles are usually more sensitive in .177, but the P/S is fairly heavy, there can't be much in it.
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I have shot and owned both calibres of the prosport and the .22 is smoother but not by a massive margin.The .177's recoil is quick and short and slightly more noticeable than the .22,but still very pleasant to shoot.
Not sure if that has helped you at all
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Had one in .22 and eventually converted it to .177 as I started shooting HFT and wanted to be competing against the larger number of .177 shooters.
Definitly nicer in .22 to be honest. Though once mastered then perfectly accurate and shoot able in .177.
It was hold sensitive. I had to have my fore hand in EXACTLY the same spot EVERY time. I now shoot a HW80 in .177 fully v-glided with 25mm cylinder and a CS500 stock. I have to be honest and say I'm struggling with the quick lock time on this. I could shoot my prosport much better, but then I had had it for a while. I also found my trigger hand would hurt in the wrist. I think it was the set back pistol grip? It became a problem for me, plus I hated the cocking leaver so sold it on. Wish I hadn't sometimes though. Would have another!
FYI, I wound never convert one again as it was a bitch of a job!
It's not that hold sensitive, unless you have only shot PCPs all your life. Bit of practice and you'll be shooting tiny groups. Try shooting a BSF B55! That requires real skill to get accuracy.
thanks for the feedback people. I have have only once had a .177 springer and it was a hw97k. I think it was the quick lock time and the fast sharp poky sort of feeling i couldnt get on with, i tired a full fettle and vmach kit but sold it on....my .22 Tuned HW95 blew it out the water.
I think i have confirmed my suspicions and will hold out for a nice .22 walnut
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The PS is a lovely rifle in both calibres. Obviously the .22 is smoother but then .22 always is smoother than .177 when legal limit rifles are involved.
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my next rifle will be a TX and i was in the same boat, i normally get my springers in .22 but was thinking i might get the TX in .177 as its a heavy lump but after reading this thread i think i will stick to my rule of .22 in a springer and .177 in a pcp...........sorted
I never really found my .177 prosport to be too bad on hold sensitivity. I guess its what you are used to, if you come from a well tuned hw97 then yes it is, if you come from a webley longbow or other light weight full power bb then no it isnt.
So, better than some, worse than others
Initially struggled a bit with my .177 PS but persevered with fine tuning. I have a UKNeil silencer which gives a little more weight at the muzzle end and a Vortek Oseal on the piston. Now I would say that it is better than my Lazaglided .22 97K was. It feels as good as a pcp inside my springer ranges (35yd max) I am very pleased with it and there is absolutely no hold sensitivity/muzzle flip to worry about.
I'm pretty sure both will be good to shoot, however I'm leaning towards one in .177 calibre after reading this despite knowing that .22 will likely be smoother to shoot out of the box. My HW80 (.22) is on ticket and at 20fpe is pretty lively anyway, so I think a Prosport in .177 shouldn't pose too many problems... (he thinks, hopefully)
Drop the stroke 14mm or so and it will be a lot LESS hold sensitive.
Found the same when i sleeved the hw80, with 80mm stroke the .22 was horrid, very very hard to shoot, dropped 10mm off the stroke and it transformed it.
The sooner someone starts making +14mm piston rods for the TX/PS piston Mk3 the better IMO, or a snap on piston cap that will do the same.
The longer rod is the better option, it allows for a longer spring.
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