In praise of Webley air pistols

[ggggr]

It makes you think about why they didn,t do the same with the Typhoon. sure Ij would do the mod
I wouldn,t mind getting hold of a cheap Typhoon to go with my nieces Hurricane and Tempest.

Some more Webley musings.
I think it would have been a good idea if the lug/barrel pivot was separate to the barrel and then the barrels could be threaded in like on the Hawk mk 2. That would have made it easier to swap barrels and probably some would have sold as accessories?
How about an after market metal trigger guard? Maybe a better rearsight that would fit the Tempest?
Going down the Crosman route you could have had a Tempest with options

Choice of wooden grips including ambi ones.
A shoulder stock that screwed on like the Crosman rather than that silly arm brace.
Threaded barrel pivot with option to change barrels easily
Couple of barrel lengths and cocking links so they would not foul the trigger guard.
A better adjustable rearsight that would screw on in place of the Tempest one.
How about a piston with a thread in the end to hold the piston washer,rather than that mushroom thing? Two or Three different washer thicknesses could be supplied to change the stroke for a "Target Tempest"

Imagine laying out for that lot in one go in a nice presentation box

[ggggr]

The Senior I bought off Crusader arrived yesterday. It is in fair nick, apart from a broken grip and some bad rusting pitting on the grip frame and end cap. I think that maybe the gun had a damp rag left on it at some point?
Anyhow, I tried a few shots and it felt like it had a lot of dry grease in it, although it did shoot ok.
It has been stripped, cleaned and lubed today. The piston was a swine to get out because of the old dry grease. Anyhow it came apart and I cleaned the bits up with meths. I took the piston ring of and cleaned out the groove.
The gun was lubricated with Gn paste, a little LT2 and a drop of SM50 for under the ring and to help the piston get started in the cylinder. There were no bad burrs on the trigger,sear or housing and they had Gn paste put on them.
Back together and plinking well

[red bob]

aaah! still using the good old "sm50" where would we be without it
ps ,hows that scorpion ! the friday night bottle top basher; after a sip or two of the SCOTCH not the irish whiskey!!.

[ggggr]

aaah! still using the good old "sm50" where would we be without it
ps ,hows that scorpion ! the friday night bottle top basher; after a sip or two of the SCOTCH not the irish whiskey!!.

The Scorpion (Saturday night bottle top basher) is well although not used much as still looking for a house. The last time I used it for a few shots was about 3 weeks ago, after a bottle and half of wine. The light was pretty badly fading. Five shots, 5 caps and then away. I tend to use a rough Tempest these days.
How about punching out some of those double ended sight plates for the Tempests? 1 Wide notch and 1 narrow.

[red bob]

i ll get my rough tempest out and have a look.its the pistol i plink with the most to!

[Gerard]

With all this attention on Tempests... might you guys indulge a relative newbie with a bit of technical assistance for mine? I've got a .22" Tempest from about 1997 in great shape, put a new spring in it last month and it shot well. But then the thing stopped cocking. Sometimes. And now the barrel just refuses to pass about 132 degrees relative to the cylinder, nowhere near catching the sear. I'm sure I did something slightly stupid in putting it back together but I've had it apart three times since putting in the new spring and it just won't work any more. Can't see a single thing wrong. I've studied the parts blow-up and various folks' trigger assembly pictorials and it looks like I'm doing everything right. But does this particular barrel angle of 132 degrees, stopping cold like it's running up against something, give enough of a clue for experienced Tempest mechanics to sort me out?

[red bob]

guy is the sear blocking the piston as it travels forward due to the return spring coming away! possibly. i know you'll enjoy looking into this

[ggggr]

With all this attention on Tempests... might you guys indulge a relative newbie with a bit of technical assistance for mine? I've got a .22" Tempest from about 1997 in great shape, put a new spring in it last month and it shot well. But then the thing stopped cocking. Sometimes. And now the barrel just refuses to pass about 132 degrees relative to the cylinder, nowhere near catching the sear. I'm sure I did something slightly stupid in putting it back together but I've had it apart three times since putting in the new spring and it just won't work any more. Can't see a single thing wrong. I've studied the parts blow-up and various folks' trigger assembly pictorials and it looks like I'm doing everything right. But does this particular barrel angle of 132 degrees, stopping cold like it's running up against something, give enough of a clue for experienced Tempest mechanics to sort me out?

At a guess Gerard,If you are sure you have put it together right and ( hooky bit of sear spring on the sear and the leg of it goes up to the relieved bit of the trigger guard) the trigger and sear might not be aligned. Turn your gun upside down and have a look at the trigger and sear. You should be able to see the long leg of the sear,between the trigger and the sear stop pin. If you cannot see it then you need to pull the trigger and fiddle with a small screwdriver or rod and push on the short bit of the sear to rotate it until the long leg is visible and then release the trigger. With this though, the barrel usually gets just over vertical, maybe 100-110 degrees to the cylinder. If everything looks ok, then before you strip the gun again to look if the sear spring is broken, look at the trigger adjusting allen screw. These often undo and can foul on the trigger guard when cocking. These sounds more like you 132 degree thing. If it is fouling, then a touch of thread lock and wind the screw in.