in case mario dosen't read my email, and to the rest of you, i apologise for what i said in that thread, the opinions were based entirely on looking through a busnell, simmons, hawke, leupold and zeiss in a clear summers day in broad daylight out a shop window, and thus my comments on lense quality were not valid, i have withdrawn my comments and apologise for any inconvinience caused to both the path of the thread. and any insults i may have caused to those users of such scopes.

im afraid i have begginers eyes. and a tight wallet

apologies again