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    Turkish Tempests

    I must admit my interest in Webley air pistols had been confined to the all steel examples made up until the introduction of the alloy framed pistols in the mid 70s.

    Due to the above preference, I have never owned a 'Tempest' until just recently when in a moment of apparent madness I bought a new Turkish Tempest just to see how it compared with my original all steel 'Brummie' Webley pistols.

    The pistol (.22 cal) looked to be quite well made but my first attempt at use seemed to confirm my original fears when it appeared woefully underpowered. A chrono check confirmed muzzle energy less than 1ft/lb so straight back to the shop. The pistol was returned to the distributor for repair and disappointedly still registered very low power when tested at the dealers premises following the repair. I was offered a refund or a replacement Tempest pistol in .177 which I decided to try as it appeared to be pushing out much more respectable muzzle velocities.

    I have now owned the Tempest for approximately six months and must grudgingly admit that it compares quite favourably for accuracy and reliability if not appearance with my original steel Webleys.

    I actually quite enjoy shooting the stupid thing !

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    I bought a Diana 8P -

    Bit plasticy look / feel, but by far the best spring piston pistol I've ever shot / owned, for all the prospective pistol owners out there, it 'wee wees' over the Tempest
    Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34

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    You really need a "proper" Brummie Tempest Brian Apparently the Turkish version was reverse engineered as the tooling didn't leave these shores. The version was a great little pocket pistol, hence its popularity for a quarter of a century. Trouble is if you get one, you may get an itching for other variants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    You really need a "proper" Brummie Tempest Brian Apparently the Turkish version was reverse engineered as the tooling didn't leave these shores. The version was a great little pocket pistol, hence its popularity for a quarter of a century. Trouble is if you get one, you may get an itching for other variants.

    Kind regards,

    John
    Hello John,

    I did have a close look at a 'Brummie' Tempest for sale at the Imperial to see if it was that much better made than the current Turkish model. To be honest, the bits that could be seen didn't look to be made that much better to me apart from the area around the breech seal which was a far better arrangement on the original than on the Turkish version.

    Still, I must speak as I find and although it will never have the place in my affections that the all steel Webley pistols do, the Turkish Tempest is not all that bad and as I said I can't say I don't enjoy shooting it.

    Regards

    Brian
    Last edited by Abasmajor; 28-07-2013 at 10:59 AM.

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    I have just bought an almost new .177 Turkish Tempest from an ad. on the BBS and when it arrives I will look forward to comparing it against my older Birmingham built .177 Tempest.

    My old Tempest was probably built after 1981 as it has the WEBLEY TEMPEST stamp on the front cover rather than the early types that were only stamped TEMPEST. It is also stamped "Webley & Scott" and "Made in England" and has the the "F" mark repeated twice underneath this front cover.

    The pistol also has the later square shaped long link that appeared after 1980 and the red paint filled safety mark that replaced the thin plastic insert type after 1979.

    Other than the above clues I have no idea just how old the pistol is but when the "new to me" one arrives it will be interesting to shoot them both in a back to back test against each other as well as inspecting them visually to see how one compares with the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooma View Post
    I have just bought an almost new .177 Turkish Tempest from an ad. on the BBS and when it arrives I will look forward to comparing it against my older Birmingham built .177 Tempest.

    My old Tempest was probably built after 1981 as it has the WEBLEY TEMPEST stamp on the front cover rather than the early types that were only stamped TEMPEST. It is also stamped "Webley & Scott" and "Made in England" and has the the "F" mark repeated twice underneath this front cover.

    The pistol also has the later square shaped long link that appeared after 1980 and the red paint filled safety mark that replaced the thin plastic insert type after 1979.

    Other than the above clues I have no idea just how old the pistol is but when the "new to me" one arrives it will be interesting to shoot them both in a back to back test against each other as well as inspecting them visually to see how one compares with the other.

    Having never shot an original Tempest I would be very interested in the results of your head to head with it's Turkish cousin. One thing I would be especially interested in is the so called trigger adjustment mechanism which seems to have no affect at all on the Turkish pistols but may do something on the Brummie version. Having said that, the trigger weight is not excessive and breaks at about the same weight as my Premiers and Seniors. The Turkish Tempest also retains the wider trigger shoe which I believe was only present on the later Brummie pistols and helps with the impression of a lighter pull.

    Regards

    Brian
    Last edited by Abasmajor; 29-07-2013 at 08:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggggr View Post
    I dont know if this is true, but a few years ago, I was told that Webley stopped making them because the machinery was broken/fell apart.
    Does anybody know?

    I agree with John about them being a great little pistol.
    I think they stopped making them because the company went bust. Quite possible that the plant and jigs were too old to bother exporting.

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    One thing about the Turkish Tempests. They were fitted with a stronger spring hence the difficulty in cocking, which imo rather defeats the purpose of a Webley pistol, it is not meant to have power but be a decent 10m pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogilkes View Post
    One thing about the Turkish Tempests. They were fitted with a stronger spring hence the difficulty in cocking, which imo rather defeats the purpose of a Webley pistol, it is not meant to have power but be a decent 10m pistol.
    Sounds like a weaker spring could be my first modification as I really hate over-sprung air weapons - I am told the Typhoon spring fits and is a little kinder on the mechanics and should help the 10 meter accuracy.

    When the pistol arrives I should have some fun with the back to back testing.
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