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    I have one of the centennial Turkish Tempests. Well made and good to look at BUT it is a right pain to cock.

    Within five shots I've had enough - I have to rest it on my knee to load it and it hurts!

    I have an original and can cock it with no effort just by holding it in my hands - can keep reloading all night.

    My question - am I alone in having a bad example or have they since improved the design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulR View Post
    I have one of the centennial Turkish Tempests. Well made and good to look at BUT it is a right pain to cock.

    Within five shots I've had enough - I have to rest it on my knee to load it and it hurts!

    I have an original and can cock it with no effort just by holding it in my hands - can keep reloading all night.

    My question - am I alone in having a bad example or have they since improved the design?
    Hi Paul,

    As you will see from my first post on this subject I have tried two examples of the Turkish Tempests in both calibres. The first in .22 proved to be a bit of a disaster, but I must say I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance of the second .177 pistol. Coming from a die hard all steel Webley pistol fanatic this is praise indeed. Although it will never exhibit the same high standard of manufacture or aesthetics, it has certainly proved to be as reliable and accurate as my classic steel pistols.

    Both the pistols I have handled were quite hard to cock but not to a point where I would consider it to be a problem. I would say they were a little harder to cock than a Mk1 but a lot harder than the Senior or Premier if that helps.

    Although the trigger weight on both pistols wasn't excessive, I was disappointed that the trigger adjustment screw appeared to have no effect on either pistol. Whether this is the case with 'Brummie' Tempests I'm not sure having never owned one.

    The pistol also recoils quite a bit but this is part of the fun of shooting springers which I actually enjoy.

    Regards

    Brian

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    Amac - clear your inbox please Andy; I'm trying to send you a pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikec4 View Post
    Amac - clear your inbox please Andy; I'm trying to send you a pm.

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    Yeah! He wants to buy your Tempest as he broke his hammer.
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    Couldn't resist that cheap shot could you? Just wait till I see the mighty "Orca" once again. I have got some modifications in mind that might interest Tony Belas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amac View Post
    Couldn't resist that cheap shot could you? Just wait till I see the mighty "Orca" once again. I have got some modifications in mind that might interest Tony Belas.

    Andy

    I am NOT fitting it with a wind up trigger.

    I cant reach to hit above the belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    I am NOT fitting it with a wind up trigger.
    Almost everything you do involves a wind up....
    Nowhere to go ........in no hurry to get there; www.rivington-riflemen.uk----- well I suppose it is somewhere to go.... founded by I.J. - let down by the tainted blood scandal

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulR View Post
    I have one of the centennial Turkish Tempests. Well made and good to look at BUT it is a right pain to cock.

    Within five shots I've had enough - I have to rest it on my knee to load it and it hurts!

    I have an original and can cock it with no effort just by holding it in my hands - can keep reloading all night.

    My question - am I alone in having a bad example or have they since improved the design?
    Paul, I suspect there is some variability in the Turkish Tempests. Mine in 0.177 will not allow RWS Superdome or RWS Target to properly seat; the barrel is tight. I am using Crossman Domed, but hear that RWS Hobby may work. After around 500 pellets it is still tight to cock. I use the recommended Webley method, but also find it necessary to rest the lower part of the gun on my upper thigh to gain leverage (don't pinch); its just to difficult for me using hands alone. Just bought a used (well run in) English Tempest in 0.22 which is putting out the correct energy but is far easier to cock just using hands; I'm hoping the Turkisk one will ease off in time.

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    The 'Turkish' Tempest is defiantly harder to cock than THE original model and will probably not get much easier from new until the spring weakens with age. The secret is to use the recommended technique outlined above but be sure to cock the pistol in one CONTINUOUS motion. I have now tried quite a few examples in both calibres all of which required the same level of effort. I would not however consider it excessive or particularly tiring once the knack has been acquired

    Regards

    Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    The 'Turkish' Tempest is defiantly harder to cock than THE original model and will probably not get much easier from new until the spring weakens with age. The secret is to use the recommended technique outlined above but be sure to cock the pistol in one CONTINUOUS motion. I have now tried quite a few examples in both calibres all of which required the same level of effort. I would not however consider it excessive or particularly tiring once the knack has been acquired

    Regards

    Brian.
    I use the Webley technique for cocking the gun, but to gain better leverage initially rested the underside of the gun on my thigh (careful not to pinch). However, after practice cocking a rather fiesty Mk II Junior (practically unused/good spring), I can now cock the Turkish Tempest directly in front just using arms/no support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimstraight View Post
    I use the Webley technique for cocking the gun, but to gain better leverage initially rested the underside of the gun on my thigh (careful not to pinch). However, after practice cocking a rather fiesty Mk II Junior (practically unused/good spring), I can now cock the Turkish Tempest directly in front just using arms/no support.
    Hello Des,

    It's a bit like riding a bicycle, once you have acquired the knack you wonder what all the fuss was about.

    Regards

    Brian

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