FWB 80 Maccari vs dual vs original vs original

[Eidem]

Hi People, I'm new on this forum.
After constantly ending up here when searching for info I thought I might as well join.

I was just lucky enough to find an FWB modell 80 for sale and picked it up It was not in the best condition but it shot straight and it was cheap.
Barrel and receiver was scratched badly so I have been working on refurbishing it a little.
Just reblued the barrel, and sights and was thinking of taking the rest of the gun apart and use duracoat to spray the body and reblue whatever else that is worn at the same time. I will also at some point make new grips probably of birch.

Which brings me to the point I was thinking of replacing all seals and the spring while I am at it.

Do some one here have experience with these different springs and what is the best option.

Jim Maccari's spring are famous but are they really better than the original springs?

And the dual spring set up; does it affect accuracy, does it give the gun much more recoil, is there much extra power with it?

Cheers

[Garvin]

Hi People, I'm new on this forum.
After constantly ending up here when searching for info I thought I might as well join.

I was just lucky enough to find an FWB modell 80 for sale and picked it up It was not in the best condition but it shot straight and it was cheap.
Barrel and receiver was scratched badly so I have been working on refurbishing it a little.
Just reblued the barrel, and sights and was thinking of taking the rest of the gun apart and use duracoat to spray the body and reblue whatever else that is worn at the same time. I will also at some point make new grips probably of birch.

Which brings me to the point I was thinking of replacing all seals and the spring while I am at it.

Do some one here have experience with these different springs and what is the best option.

Jim Maccari's spring are famous but are they really better than the original springs?

And the dual spring set up; does it affect accuracy, does it give the gun much more recoil, is there much extra power with it?

Cheers

Hello there in Norway. I've shot 65s (same power plant as the 80) with one and two springs and I can't honestly tell the difference.

I don't believe for a minute that the recoil was substantially affected, although I think the dual spring set up does deliver a little more power. Certainly that's what was claimed when the 80 came out and I think 65s made after that point (for quite a lot of years) also had dual springs.

Whether Maccari springs are better than the originals I couldn't say for sure but in the case of FWB ones I very much doubt it, brilliant maker of springs though he undoubtedly is. I think a small increase in velocity is claimed for his FWB match springs, but I may be wrong about this?

[Rickenbacker]

Hi People, I'm new on this forum.
After constantly ending up here when searching for info I thought I might as well join.

I was just lucky enough to find an FWB modell 80 for sale and picked it up It was not in the best condition but it shot straight and it was cheap.
Barrel and receiver was scratched badly so I have been working on refurbishing it a little.
Just reblued the barrel, and sights and was thinking of taking the rest of the gun apart and use duracoat to spray the body and reblue whatever else that is worn at the same time. I will also at some point make new grips probably of birch.

Which brings me to the point I was thinking of replacing all seals and the spring while I am at it.

Do some one here have experience with these different springs and what is the best option.

Jim Maccari's spring are famous but are they really better than the original springs?

And the dual spring set up; does it affect accuracy, does it give the gun much more recoil, is there much extra power with it?

Cheers

Are you feeling any recoil?

IIRC the FWB 80 can be used with the sledge locked or unlocked, via a screw at the front of the action.

Locked - the pistol will recoil (intended for use as a firearm trainer, I think).

Unlocked - the action slides back upon firing, and should feel 'recoil-less' ?

[Garvin]

Are you feeling any recoil?

IIRC the FWB 80 can be used with the sledge locked or unlocked, via a screw at the front of the action.

Locked - the pistol will recoil (intended for use as a firearm trainer, I think).

Unlocked - the action slides back upon firing, and should feel 'recoil-less' ?

I think that's only true of the 65 and that the 80 had no firearm simulator setting.

[Mark D]

I think that's only true of the 65 and that the 80 had no firearm simulator setting.

That's right,only the Mod 65 has the simulator. Unless of course,someone owns a Mod 80 with it!

[Rickenbacker]

Ahh, sorry chaps. When I owned an 80 I also had two 65s. That would explain the incorrect memory.

(I always prefered the 80 to shoot. Particularly for the wide rearsight).

Question/thought remains to the OP - There shouldn't be felt recoil (?)

[Eidem]

Are you feeling any recoil?

IIRC the FWB 80 can be used with the sledge locked or unlocked, via a screw at the front of the action.

Locked - the pistol will recoil (intended for use as a firearm trainer, I think).

Unlocked - the action slides back upon firing, and should feel 'recoil-less' ?

I am feeling some recoil, the barrel lifts a little, causing me to to shoot high and forcing me to set the rear
sight so low that I am starting to see the top of the receiver in the bottom of my rear sight opening.
This is quite anying making it a disturbance.
It is not set to "fire arm" mode, the mechanism slides.
But with some fiddling I am realizing that it does not glide very freely. I took the gun apart and checked
the guide axles and realized the rear axle was "scratched" I think I will replace all the parts in the slide
mechanism. Replacing all the parts starting with the rear parts will hopefully get it loose again.
Hopefully I do not have to replace all parts.....

This is why I am worried about creating more recoil. As I understand the dual spring set up consists of a
regular spring with an additional spring inside it? I would believe it increases the velocity some if this is a fact?

[Eidem]

That's right,only the Mod 65 has the simulator. Unless of course,someone owns a Mod 80 with it!

I believe that might be the case It has a threaded hole in the front I I put in a screw there it locks the sliding mechanism.
But I believe the screw and the plate only came with the box with the mod 65 originally.

[mikec4]

I believe that might be the case It has a threaded hole in the front I I put in a screw there it locks the sliding mechanism.
But I believe the screw and the plate only came with the box with the mod 65 originally.

Are you sure? The FWB 80 has 3 barrel weights and, as far as I know, the threaded hole is to secure the first weight. The others are then screwed into that. I can pm you photos of my Model 80 if you like. However the Feinwerkbau website has archived manuals, parts lists and exploded drawings.

http://www.feinwerkbau.de/en/Service...-product-range


http://www.feinwerkbau.de/en/Service+Download/Exploded-drawings

As regards power, my 80 chronos at 460 ft/sec giving 3.4ft/lbs using 7 grain RWS Meisterkugeln pellets - more than adequate for target shooting at 10 metres.

Hope this helps

ATB
Mike.

[Eidem]

Are you sure? The FWB 80 has 3 barrel weights and, as far as I know, the threaded hole is to secure the first weight. The others are then screwed into that. I can pm you photos of my Model 80 if you like. However the Feinwerkbau website has archived manuals, parts lists and exploded drawings.

Pretty sure Mine has two holes; one for the first weight and one for locking:

1 photo.
2 photo.

As I see there seems to be quite a lot of variations in features between guns of the same models, I would not be surprised to see
some modell 80's with and some without.

Thanks for the links. I already have them, but thanks still for bothering.

I do not really see the need for any more power in the gun, particularly
if it comes with sacrificing any accuracy!
I am siply looking for the smoothest and most consistent/ accurate set up.

Mine is original I believe, but it kinda feels a little more "harsh" then I would
have expected. Most people seem to claim their guns are virtually recoil less.
And that their sight picture remains undisturbed while firing. Also the few
videos on the tube that shows firing seems to underline this.
Mine kicks way more than the other ones i see fired.
Either that or I definitely need a gym membership

So I am simply wondering if any of the other spring set ups are better?