CP88, makarov or what?

[tinbum]

I want a well made, dinky pistol with some power and potential for informal targets and plinking at medium ranges.

It will live in my coat pocket while I'm out shooting or walking the dog (only on my permissions obviously).
Ive had both the above and the CP was ok as I recall, but the makarov felt very well put together. The new Gen 5's slimmer looks and milled slide appeal greatly. Has anyone dremelled the valve out and fitted a stronger hammer spring? Did it make any difference?

Any suggestions other than these?

[Rickenbacker]

G-10 :d

[Rickenbacker]

Seriously though, the EB-22 has like, 5 FPE http://www.solware.co.uk/air-pistol-...min-eb22.shtml

[tinbum]

Seriously though, the EB-22 has like, 5 FPE http://www.solware.co.uk/air-pistol-...min-eb22.shtml

Yeah, had one, noisy little bugger it was!

Also, can't find one secondhand or for sale on the continent. I have to buy new from abroad as they're the only shops that can post to you........

[Rickenbacker]

Umarex revolver (which you've had), or the RWS C225 (Sig replica), which always seems more powerful than the other semi-auto reps', even the 4" barrel version is good. But the sights are fixed (IIRC), and theres not many about.

Or this month's fashion accessory - a Tempest!

[tinbum]

Or this month's fashion accessory - a Tempest!

Just found some info on these new, horrid Turkish abominations! 400 fps in .22 and 500 in .177!! I mean, bloomin 'eck!


Small, self contained, unique and iconic design, small and now powerful as well? What's not to like?

[Aimstraight]

What about the CP99, they can be had second hand at a good price....i know I just bought one via this forum. SA & DA, cock the rear slide for SA, DA is very smooth (better than my CP88). Short rifled barrel, but surprisingly accurate and not too loud. Lighter than the CP88 so easy on the pocket.

[tinbum]

What about the CP99, they can be had second hand at a good price....i know I just bought one via this forum. SA & DA, cock the rear slide for SA, DA is very smooth (better than my CP88). Short rifled barrel, but surprisingly accurate and not too loud. Lighter than the CP88 so easy on the pocket.

Trouble is, I already bear a striking resemblance to Daniel Craig. I think the Bond gun would be a step too far!

Which cp99 is it? There seem to be a few.

[flatrajectory]

I want a well made, dinky pistol with some power and potential for informal targets and plinking at medium ranges.

It will live in my coat pocket while I'm out shooting or walking the dog (only on my permissions obviously).
Ive had both the above and the CP was ok as I recall, but the makarov felt very well put together. The new Gen 5's slimmer looks and milled slide appeal greatly. Has anyone dremelled the valve out and fitted a stronger hammer spring? Did it make any difference?

Any suggestions other than these?

Re. The Makarov gen.5 .....a very well made compact pistol. Ok for plinking up to 10 yards or so but not as accurate as a pellet firing pistol. You cannot dremel out the valve but you can fit an enlarged gas chamber from Skober on e-gun.de, which significantly increases power. Lots of info over on the Makarov Pistol Association.
Pete.

[tinbum]

Re. The Makarov gen.5 .....a very well made compact pistol. Ok for plinking up to 10 yards or so but not as accurate as a pellet firing pistol. You cannot dremel out the valve but you can fit an enlarged gas chamber from Skober on e-gun.de, which significantly increases power. Lots of info over on the Makarov Pistol Association.
Pete.

I expect there is, but its one of those tedious forums where you have to be a member to join and becoming a member requires someone actually doing something. I registered a couple of years ago and never heard back but I've registered again to see if its improved.

[Bazmati2020]

Hi, forum only started this year.
I have just activated a couple of users in the last hour so hopefully you are one of those.
You can file the original valve as you suspected, possibly not as good a flow as the Skober but it does help

[tinbum]

Hi, forum only started this year.
I have just activated a couple of users in the last hour so hopefully you are one of those.
You can file the original valve as you suspected, possibly not as good a flow as the Skober but it does help

Must've been a different one, it was when I last had a mak. My account is now open, thanks!

Loads of interesting stuff in there, having a good dig about now. Are the brown gen 5 grips ok to use or shockingly horrid?

[Bazmati2020]

The brown gen 5 are genuine Bakalite soviet issue, all good

You can buy Bakalite for the gen 1-4's also (high capacity model) also genuine (I have a set on my gen 1) better fit for my hands than stock version. Custom wood grips also out there as well as rubber.

Hope you enjoy the MPA, lots and lots of good information and help there

[Ric66]

Hi

The question is realistic or not ? The Makarov is as close as you will get to a real steel and with a few mods is a fine pistol. The CP88 again a good piece of kit but lacks realisim.

Regards Ric

[TonyL]

I want a well made, dinky pistol with some power and potential for informal targets and plinking at medium ranges.

It will live in my coat pocket while I'm out shooting or walking the dog (only on my permissions obviously).
Ive had both the above and the CP was ok as I recall, but the makarov felt very well put together. The new Gen 5's slimmer looks and milled slide appeal greatly. Has anyone dremelled the valve out and fitted a stronger hammer spring? Did it make any difference?

Any suggestions other than these?

Hi Tinny,

Hope you're okay matey.

Of all the very compact pistols I really fancy the looks of the little Baikal and Umarex Walther PPK.
However, I have not personally handled one but would guess that it's the Baikal that would boast the more robust build? Maybe slightly more utilitarian, but then I like that sort of thing anyway. And it's SO compact....

BUT....A few things put me off these little BB firing gems....Mainly the need for a different backstop. I can't just blat away at home, so more clinical, accurate shooting, with a proper backstop is the only way for me at home.

You mention informal targets, plinking and medium range use.....I'm guessing that any potential accuracy will go downhill beyond about 7 or 8 yards? So, although I can see the fun side of these, I feel that they could also frustrate, ultimately.....I was enjoying reading Phill Price's review on that lovely looking, well-priced Luger in AGW this month.....until you get to the bit mentioning 2" groups at six yards!

Howz about the good old Ratty? Nice and compact. Can easily approach the 6ft.lbs limit. If you turn the power down, you'd get more shots per capsule and reduce the noise, as they do crack a little. Very accurate. Lots of tuning and customising goodies and a wealth of information out there. Brilliant value for money. The only disadvantage would be lack of quick fire facility, but they're easy and quick to re-load. And that accuracy and power makes longer range shots a very real possibility.

I too love the look of the Benjamin, for it's olde worlde classic looks, but the Ratty's much cheaper and lots of goodies to trick it up once you feel the need.

Have a look on the Crosman website, also, for a MASSIVE range of other pistols.

Cheers,

Tone.