Talk me in to it.

[malj]

Just had a play around with a borrowed break barrel springer at the local club and had a cracking afternoon.

So hears the rub, as yet I still do not have a rifle, locally I know of and have shot a hw77 and a AA s400 carbine both 177.

hw77 being a older rifle with some bumps and lumps but not bad, cocking and loading pretty easy, shot well with good grouping around 20mm at 20 meters, a bit noisy and a bit heavy. Cheap to repair and run

S400 2 years old nice adjustable stock has been used for hft so some marks on the woodwork but again not bad condition,again loading fairly easy once you get used to the small breach, grouping again very good slightly better than the hw very quiet, but if there was a but I would say that there was not much feedback from the rifle a little numb.

So talk me into or out of one of them.

Regards mal

[ashf9999]

Get both

[malj]

Get both

As the saying goes, I wish!

[Bob P]

Both are fine rifles but very different.
Do you want to shoot a springer or a pcp?
Bob

[malj]

Both are fine rifles but very different.
Do you want to shoot a springer or a pcp?
Bob

Not sure, always worked on the principle of think twice cut once when buying equipment. But I am torn between the 2 quality of both is good.

Think I need to get my head around my competitiveness and and stop comparing the 2 like for like and start looking at them as 2 separate classes

Mal

[colin857]

well if you do go for the s400 you need to think about the costs of a bottle or a pump to fill the rifle and also where you would get the bottle filled if you go for a bottle where the hw77 all you need to think about is the pellets to take with you when you do shoot

[blackscale]

Very True!

Springer, great fun can shoot in Boinger class but won't compete with the pcp's unless you are very good!

Pcp, you are the weakest link!

(Happy new year colin! XX )

[ELMOR FUDD]

Iv found in situations like this that you just have to listen to that little voice in your head and buy both

[colin857]

Very True!

Springer, great fun can shoot in Boinger class but won't compete with the pcp's unless you are very good!

Pcp, you are the weakest link!

(Happy new year colin! XX )

thanks mike happy new year to you also

[Rickenbacker]

Just had a play around with a borrowed break barrel springer at the local club and had a cracking afternoon.

So hears the rub, as yet I still do not have a rifle, locally I know of and have shot a hw77 and a AA s400 carbine both 177.

hw77 being a older rifle with some bumps and lumps but not bad, cocking and loading pretty easy, shot well with good grouping around 20mm at 20 meters, a bit noisy and a bit heavy. Cheap to repair and run

S400 2 years old nice adjustable stock has been used for hft so some marks on the woodwork but again not bad condition,again loading fairly easy once you get used to the small breach, grouping again very good slightly better than the hw very quiet, but if there was a but I would say that there was not much feedback from the rifle a little numb.

So talk me into or out of one of them.

Regards mal

From the above (highlighted text) I'd say you're talking yourself into a break barrel springer!

[hunter88]

Agree with the above you have already chosen the HW