To say they are just custom daystates is totally unfair i have to agree Lionel. I just had something in mind that (not necessarly by one man either)... I dont know how to explain it except by example, was made as whole rifle and when the children come to sell it they can say, oh this was a such and such, look what they did different etc, you know what i mean? Something like the Austrian ones would definatly have it, quackenbush have it, the Barns have it, and so do the STALKERS, but they have daystate in there too, even though I'll bet they are the real shooters gun out of the lot of them.

BTW shrendi i would love to make one my self, not sure I trust my self to be able to make it through 15 years of prototype valves perhaps Mr Bowkett will let me steal his design one day , we have a communal metal shop down the road that i get to make the missus bra hangers and curtain rails in, it really deserves better use too.

tim