Webley Air Pistol Batch Numbers

[hyscore100]

I also have Premiers

16
100
205

[CHJF177]

Here are mine John :-

Juniors

010
46
135
362
920

Junior mk2

346

Mk1

680
859
1053

Seniors

421
961
891
1124

Premiers

217
410
536
816
913
1720
1944

The Mk1 680 was purchased new by me in the summer of 1963 and does not have a 4 suffix to the address

ATB Chris.

[daveh]

Hi John,
Herewith my contribution:-
Junior -331
Mk1 -107
Senior -651
Regards
Daveh

[Josie & John]

Having just updated the "master" list, I'm starting to think this is rather like doing the bingo

We have 2 consecutively numbered Mk1s and 2 Juniors to-date.

Thanks Troubledshooter for reminding me you know of another Junior numbered 1 as well as your own. I'd like to say I vaguely remember our conversation but truth is I can't recollect it - memory was never much good! Pics and details of both pistols would be useful.

I wonder if we ought to concentrate on the Webley Premier, as after all these pistols are date coded mostly (under the grip) and have code letters. Can I therefore ask those who have already kindly provided details of Premiers to confirm Series codes at this stage. No need for dates just yet unless you have them to hand.

Thanks again to all who have contributed so far.

John

[Leonardj]

Premier series codes added to my earlier post.

[trevor1]

Acres and acres have been written about Webley & Scott but it seems their postwar numeric system is still a mystery. Best call in the Bletchley girls!!

[Troubledshooter]

I've now listed Type and Date Codes to my list of Premiers.

[Anchorman]

Hi John
Seniors

423
703
Dave

[Josie & John]

Gentlemen, we appear to have a match.

Troubledshooter and I both have Premiers with a batch no of 808.

David,
By N/C and N/L, do you mean No Code and No Letter? If you do, then my 808 is also undated with no letter. It is a blued 5 pin Premier from C.1970/71.

If both follow this pattern, it adds weight to the theory that batches of pistols shared the same number.

Thanks again to all who have contributed.

John

[Leonardj]

Premier Mk II and Junior Mk II info added to my post on pg 1.

[Ormicron]

Heres mine

Webley junior
1 402 prewar tin plate
2 165 Post war
3 493 Post war
4 536 Post war Nickel
5 710 Post war
6 732 Post war
7 860 Post war
8 1330 Post war
9 1362 Post war
Webley junior Mk2
10 473 Post war

Mk 1 Straight grip
11 3005 Prewar
12 8161 Prewar
13 8486 Prewar
14 31942 Prewar
15 31739 Prewar Target

Mk1 Slant
16 58
17 270
18 319
19 321
20 770
21 784
22 874
23 1295
24 65416

Senior
25 637
26 742
27 1856
28 1198
29 2039
30 S10754
31 S1151
32 S10269
33 S10862

Premier
34 E 4
35 E56
36 E 477
37 E 623
38 E1273
Premier Mk2
39 382
40 474

[Troubledshooter]

David,
By N/C and N/L, do you mean No Code and No Letter? If you do, then my 808 is also undated with no letter. It is a blued 5 pin Premier from C.1970/71. John

My .22 Premier No:808 is a boxed, blued, five pin model with no type letter and no date codes, in the last Brown/Cream Label type of Premier box.
Check your loft, John.

We already have another match with the two Junior No:1's.

[ashf9999]

Post-war ones in cabinet are as follows, mostly boxed. If I'm brave enough to go in the roof and face the spiders I'll update this soon with the others.

Premier

E series suncorite/expoy (can't remember which, haven't looked it back up) 535, date stamped June 74
E series blue 5 pin 108
D series blue 5 pin 1504
E series blue 5 pin 873

Premier Mk11

962. Trigger shape dating it 1976 onwards

MK1

Blue, 4 pin (no postal district) 707

Junior

Suncorite finish 588
Blue, extended grip 314
Blue, later grip 901

Junior MK11

Standard, 909

Senior

131
534/584 (Middle digit a bit unclear)
322
355 plated

[Josie & John]

Thanks for latest updates.

Interesting to see both the Juniors marked "1" have fixed sights and appear to be early variations - thanks Troubledshooter. I'll await further detail if you can obtain it on the pistol which belongs to your friend.

Ormicron,
Can you confirm the date code from under the grip of your E Series Premier marked 477 as it looks like another match?

For those who have kindly provided Premier batch numbers, can I ask for your Series Code letters to be added along with date codes from under the grips if at all possible? Series codes are more important as I appreciate it may be inconvenient to remove grips just to check.

Reading through my old notes, I have had a blued Junior through my hands marked 332 and coded B. Dennis Hiller mentions a Junior marked 332 on page 205 of the 3rd edition of his book, although Dennis's description refers to a coated pistol coded A. Unlikely to be the same batch due to different finish but not impossible?

I have a feeling this thread has asked more questions than it has solved but between us, we have identified up to 4 potential matches in just a few days.

John

[palmerclassic]

Hi here is mine
premier 77 (B)
mk 1 938
senior 831
junior 598