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    Patrick muff pistol

    Could any of you kind knowledgeable gentlemen give me some idea as to a value for this little flintlock pistol please?
    Its in .499 cal, a flintlock muff pistol and made by Patrick of Liverpool. (fine gunsmiths as i understand)
    Obviously bought and given to a traveling lady to deter the thief and vagabond and general knicker stealer
    It functions on both half and full cock correctly and obviously has not been fired in the last 50yr ...Held as Section 58/2 etc
    Its been a wall hanger in my parents home and was given to my father in his shooting days by a dear uncle.
    Anyways,Dads in a care home now and mums spent 50yrs cob-webbing the thing and would rather see a new lounge carpet.
    Any advise and help would be greatly welcomed

    Here are the links to photos

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...8/IMAG0682.jpg
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...8/IMAG0689.jpg
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...8/IMAG0681.jpg
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...8/IMAG0678.jpg
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...8/IMAG0688.jpg

    Many thanks in advance

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    It was made by Jeremiah Patrick active 1795-1814 as the proof marks are Birmingham pre 1813.
    I would guess the turn off barrel is frozen(seized) in place.
    I would say that you shouldn't except less than around the £300 mark for it.

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    lovley lookin pistol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fronteria View Post
    It was made by Jeremiah Patrick active 1795-1814 as the proof marks are Birmingham pre 1813.
    I would guess the turn off barrel is frozen(seized) in place.
    I would say that you shouldn't except less than around the £300 mark for it.
    Thank you for your kind response,
    never attempted to remove the barrel and would be dubious for fear of marking or damage.
    I`m guessing then that when it would have originally been sold in (1800?) it had a longer barrel as well maybe?
    I find these old BP guns fascinating, and the gunsmith/metalworking skills they must have had.
    cheers, gil66

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtpkeeper View Post
    lovley lookin pistol
    Thanks and yes it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by gil66 View Post
    Thank you for your kind response,
    never attempted to remove the barrel and would be dubious for fear of marking or damage.
    I`m guessing then that when it would have originally been sold in (1800?) it had a longer barrel as well maybe?
    I find these old BP guns fascinating, and the gunsmith/metalworking skills they must have had.
    cheers, gil66
    I would say without inspection that the barrel is the original length as it was concealed and designed to be fired in self defence situations at ranges of 8 to 10 feet max.
    I wouldn't want to get in the way of .499" lead ball doing three or four hundred foot per second, if it hit you it guaranteed almost certain death in 1800.

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    Nice gun.

    I would buy my Mum a new carpet and keep it.

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