[QUOTE=greenwayjames;6420277]sounds like he was just trying to put a rad on the front of a seal, OVERKILL! just use a radiused cutting tool. However this has nothing to do with my original post, all I am trying to say is , if you have a lathe a little skill , and some polyurethane, you can make your own seals, The difficult part is doing the rear where it mounts to the piston, and that I have done,