CS500/HW99 update

[CaineIsCarter]

I received an email reply from Custom Stocks to a general enquiry about having CS500 stocks made for the HW99.

They say their CNC machine would require programming, which is time consuming, and would require a stock for the inletting dimensions, and ideally an action or dummy action or some type of jig for fitting.

They say obtaining these items would not be cost effective unless multiple orders were forthcoming, ideally from a shop that can order in bulk. I replied and asked if an order of 20 would be sufficient, but 2 days later have not heard anything back. I suspect the answer is no.

It was worth a try.

[bigtoe01]

Keep at it

they can use my rifle and stock if you want, as long as i get a discount for delivering and picking it back up as there is no way im shipping it to them.

[landymick]

Bit of a lame reply really,don't know how they lost the data as they have done it before unless it was on a different CNC.
If they should be forthcoming please put me down for one.
Cheers Mick

[Craig-P]

Same as Tony, my rifle and stock is available too if needed.
I think the complaint of it being 'time consuming' is pathetic. My working day is time consuming but I get paid for it - same as what they will be doing.

Keep at it mate - and many thanks for your efforts so far - Craig

[CapitalBee]

I used to program cnc's and it can be time consuming, but the cost is factored into the job. Say 8 hrs to program @ £40 per/hr then 20 off @ £250 each; that's £320 outlay for £5000 return (minus the cost of wood)

[T 20]

They say their CNC machine would require programming, which is time consuming, and would require a stock for the inletting dimensions, and ideally an action or dummy action or some type of jig for fitting.

They say obtaining these items would not be cost effective unless multiple orders were forthcoming, ideally from a shop that can order in bulk. I replied and asked if an order of 20 would be sufficient, but 2 days later have not heard anything back. I suspect the answer is no.

That's probably the most pathetic thing I've read on here for a long time.

A HW99 is £225 --- a very small outlay to enable a company to produce a new product.




All the best Mick

[Two200's]

Its a shame.
I don't think its time etc, i just think they don't want to do it, end of.
The stock vs gun choices seem to be fixed on popular guns from 10 years ago.
Its one thing placing blanks into the machine and switching it on, its another programming it.
Maybe they simply dont know how to.
Maybe they lost the cnc machine instruction book.

[bigtoe01]

That's probably the most pathetic thing I've read on here for a long time.

A HW99 is £225 --- a very small outlay to enable a company to produce a new product.




All the best Mick

welcome to my world Mick...imagine having a webley longbow that needs a tasty stock, you see a forum post with a lad with a CS stock on a longbow, so you call them...only to be told they never did one. So an email or 2 later they change that story to "well sorry but we can't be bothered doing another...that one was a one off"
They have the time, they just can't be arsed!

[CaineIsCarter]

I don't think its time etc, i just think they don't want to do it, end of.

I am inclined to agree with you.

If we get 20 firm commitments, I will go back to them and take it up with them again.

You could argue Custom Stocks is something of a misnomer.

[Craig-P]

If they really were interested in making a product, they'd obtain the neccesaries to make it. Simple as that.
Although I find it hard to believe, it would seem they must be satisfied with the income from whatever their best selling stock is, for whatever existing action, and refuse to inlet blanks for new models.
Does seem a strange way to run a business though. I think I'll be dropping one of the true custom stock makers a line when I've saved a bit more.

[Craig-P]

How many definites were/are there?
If they're toying with the idea, and this must be umpteenth time they've been asked about the 99 (Ive called twice myself ), then perhaps a small deposit from each of us would demonstrate we're not timewasters.
In all fairness to them, and in fact most all custom outfitters, you do meet a disproportionate ton of dreamers (Ive worked in the trade and know first hand). So perhaps they're a little wary of that ...

[Pete E]

welcome to my world Mick...imagine having a webley longbow that needs a tasty stock, you see a forum post with a lad with a CS stock on a longbow, so you call them...only to be told they never did one. So an email or 2 later they change that story to "well sorry but we can't be bothered doing another...that one was a one off"
They have the time, they just can't be arsed!

Tony,

You have a PM..

Regards,

Peter

[T 20]

welcome to my world Mick...imagine having a webley longbow that needs a tasty stock, you see a forum post with a lad with a CS stock on a longbow, so you call them...only to be told they never did one. So an email or 2 later they change that story to "well sorry but we can't be bothered doing another...that one was a one off"
They have the time, they just can't be arsed!

Screw that for a lark Tony.

I can see a way forward but I'm not getting involved.

In my world I have a meeting with a major transport manufacturer's trouble shooter, explain what I want, draw it on a scrap of paper and hey presto within one week I have what I want and the part has a part number and there's a spare one on the shelf.

And this isn't a small part either --- it's the coupling of an articulated lorry trailer rated to carry 80 ton.



All the best Mick

[CapitalBee]

A member on WOC use this company to produce an HW30 stock. Don't know what they charge though.
http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=38&lang=eng

[rhyslightnin]

I'd love to have the kit & a workshop to produce simple no frills custom shaped inexpencive aftermaket stocks..., I love working with wood., it can't be that hard surely.