I have spoken to V mach about making up a long stroke kit but it will take time, if anyone has the skills I would appreciate a quote. I need 9mm to get the 11fpe from the super soft set up I want. I know short stroke is the fashion but I have long enjoyed the HW80 modified for minimal spring. I have been away for some time but weathered the storm and made it back to the BBS tent, I do not want to replicate my old posts about spring gun tuning my way because it is just the way I like it not the way I believe others should or should not