View Poll Results: Which is the better rifle?

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  • BSA Airsporter

    24 43.64%
  • Webley Mk III

    5 9.09%
  • They are both cr@p.

    0 0%
  • Both good in their own way.

    26 47.27%
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Thread: Airsporter VS Webley Mk III

  1. #31
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    I have quite a few of each, and I love shooting them all.

    I think that the main reason that the airsporter tends to win hands down on this one is that the basic design had a longer production run so we are all more familiar with the basic airsporter design whereas the Webley is more of an archaic design, it was clearly functional first whereas the airsporter is without doubt a 'pretty' gun.

    And everything was a copy of something until the HW77 (all bow down) anyway......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gen View Post
    I have quite a few of each, and I love shooting them all.

    I think that the main reason that the airsporter tends to win hands down on this one is that the basic design had a longer production run so we are all more familiar with the basic airsporter design whereas the Webley is more of an archaic design, it was clearly functional first whereas the airsporter is without doubt a 'pretty' gun.

    And everything was a copy of something until the HW77 (all bow down) anyway......
    Unless you believe HW77 was a copy of the Webley MK3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gen View Post

    And everything was a copy of something until the HW77 (all bow down) anyway......
    Chinese Lion? (I cant remember which came first. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Chinese Lion? (I cant remember which came first. )

    I think the old Lion was out before the 77

    The old ASI Statical was out before the Diana 54 Airking and the TX200SR as well

    S'ppose there could have been a similar gun out before the Statical but I don't know for sure



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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbaz View Post
    I think the old Lion was out before the 77

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    So, possibly HW copied it.
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    In our neck of the woods, back in the day, there didn't seem to be many Webleys around. The BSA's dominated the scene until the Vulcan appeared in '79. Most of the airguns we saw were Airsporters, Mercurys , Meteors,and Millbros with the occasional Rellum Tornado. Pistols were Gats , Scorpions and the occaisional Webley. Things seemed to change from the early '80's, when there were suddenly HWs AirArms sidelevers, Vulcans and Trackers. I always thought the Webleys looked a bit "budget" next to my BSA Airsporter, but then, - I had an S
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    So, possibly HW copied it.
    But then wasn't the FWB 300 with its sliding breech, around before the Lion ?

    And the FWB 300 had rail recoil suppression before the Statical.





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    The Anschutz 220 was around well before the Lion,(1958 or thereabouts)!This is where the sliding breech probably originates from!

    http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6...ps193036f8.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickenbacker View Post
    Unless you believe HW77 was a copy of the Webley MK3
    No but it is in the dna I beleve, all modern underleavers have one main model in the dna, the Lincoln -Jeffries pattern BSA which started it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Chinese Lion? (I cant remember which came first. )
    yes the Lion was first.

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