Rifle Scoring for the MPL Postal Series.

[zooma]

If you are counting from the centre out the ten is the white dot the nine is the next black section which the pellet will enter every time due to its size therefore it will score a nine not a ten.

If you do not touch or break the dividing line then it is a 10 - no problem

[buzzz]

If you do not touch or break the dividing line then it is a 10 - no problem

If you break the next WHITE line is scores an eight if you are scorned DOWN.

[zooma]

If you break the next WHITE line is scores an eight if you are scorned DOWN.

Hi Buzz,

#7. The nine ring is bigger than 4.5mm,it is possible to score 10 and not hit the ring.

[buzzz]

Hi Buzz,

The previous postings already cover the situation clearly enough for it to be workable and understandable.

I will copy those that are the more clear and decisive for you and repeat them here again:-


#1. Here is a clear cut example.

A perfect score of 50 can only be achieved if every shot is dead central and exactly in the middle of the 10 ring - but if any part of any hole even touches (or cuts) the dividing ring between the 9 and the bull then it will become a 9 and not a 10.

This same method applies to all of the scoring rings, so basically if any scoring ring is touched or cut then it must be scored DOWN to the next lower ring score.

This is very important - especially when shooting a match rifle at 6 yards to avoid any unrealistically high scores.

#7. The nine ring is bigger than 4.5mm,it is possible to score 10 and not hit the ring.

You can keep on repeating it but it does not make it right,take one of the targets and place a pellet dead centre of one of the targets look directly down on that target at least 75% of that pellet is sat in the nine ring,how can that be a ten if most of the pellet is in the nine ring,if you touch the next white line then you score eight,
Lets look at it another way,how do you score a nine?

[red bob]

what a web we weave ,my understanding based on the above is that where the greater area of the hole lies is the position scored [for rifle] where as
the pistol is given the score where its outer edge lies or breaks a score line on the edge nearest the bull.
a perfect 10 is as bob says , "dead centre" with all edges of hole equi distant from the 9 ring once again confirming that the majority of the hole determines score.
this method seems to score consistently through the disc if ive understood correctly.

[Rickenbacker]

You can keep on repeating it but it does not make it right,take one of the targets and place a pellet dead centre of one of the targets look directly down on that target at least 75% of that pellet is sat in the nine ring,how can that be a ten if most of the pellet is in the nine ring,if you touch the next white line then you score eight,
Lets look at it another way,how do you score a nine?

Buzz, I think you've either got hold of the wrong target, or the wrong size pellet.

If I place a pellet in the center of one of the 5 diagrams on the Air 7 card, I can clearly see the white 9 ring all the way around the pellet. That's how to score a 10.

More than around 1mm from dead center - the pellet will break the 9 ring. Scoring a 9.

As Zooma says - the rules is OUTWARD scoring. He should know, being the competition organiser.

HTH, but if you're still confused, take a photo of yours. And if you like, I'll take a photo of mine

[buzzz]

Buzz, I think you've either got hold of the wrong target, or the wrong size pellet.

If I place a pellet in the center of one of the 5 diagrams on the Air 7 card, I can clearly see the white 9 ring all the way around the pellet. That's how to score a 10.

More than around 1mm from dead center - the pellet will break the 9 ring. Scoring a 9.

As Zooma says - the rules is OUTWARD scoring. He should know, being the competition organiser.

HTH, but if you're still confused, take a photo of yours. And if you like, I'll take a photo of mine

The white line is the line that takes you into the Eight ring if you are scoring down

[zooma]

The white line is the line that takes you into the Eight ring if you are scoring down

I know what you are saying.

I have just shot a card where the pellet takes away half of the small 10 spot but also breaks the ring between the 9 and the 8 scoring rings.This will score as a 10

I also have have a shot that is directly in the 7 scoring ring but it also cuts the 8 scoring line. This is scored as an 8.

Hi Buzz, now we know the Air 7 target was designed to be scored UP I have adjusted this posting to read correctly.

[Romah]

Buzz, I think you've either got hold of the wrong target, or the wrong size pellet.

If I place a pellet in the center of one of the 5 diagrams on the Air 7 card, I can clearly see the white 9 ring all the way around the pellet. That's how to score a 10.

More than around 1mm from dead center - the pellet will break the 9 ring. Scoring a 9.

As Zooma says - the rules is OUTWARD scoring. He should know, being the competition organiser.

HTH, but if you're still confused, take a photo of yours. And if you like, I'll take a photo of mine

Not trying to confuse the issue, your competition so your rules on scoring, however you are trying to use 'outward' scoring technique on a target that was designed for 'inward scoring. Technically, it's not possible to outward score a target that has a 10 ring smaller than the projectile being used.
No matter whether a target is scored 'inward' or 'outward' the 'boundary' for score change is the outside of the line e.g. for inward scoring, if the hole (or plug) touches the line the higher score is given and for outward scoring the high score prevails until the line is broken.

[Rutty]

Having read the thread from the beginning I feel that it would be worth referring to NSRA Rules Appendix A, section dealing with the use of the
4. 5 mm OVERSIZE GAUGE FOR 10 m AIR RIFLE AND RUNNING TARGET AND FOR 6 yard AIR RIFLE. In particular it should be noted that the gauge size used for scoring on the next outer ring is 5.5mm. If you are using a 4.5mm gauge then you should score inward. As Romah observes, that is the way the targets are designed, the oversize gauge is only used to improve scoring accuracy because of the small highly curved rings.

A "10" using outward scoring with a 4.5mm gauge on the 6yd Air 7 Target would give a value of the approximately 10.6 were decimal scoring used vs. inward scoring. I doubt that it was intended to be so difficult.

Rutty

The NSRA Rules may be downloaded from the Reference Section of the NSRA website

[zooma]

Technically, it's not possible to outward score a target that has a 10 ring smaller than the projectile being used.

As far as scoring goes we are only interested in getting everyone to score in the same direction so we have comparable scores between all competitors, and if you read all of the threads here you will see that I continue to check everything that has been submitted so far with the intention of resolving all issues as soon as possible.

The next thread I submit should shown a positive response from all of the information I have been able to gather.