Rifle Scoring for the MPL Postal Series.

[zooma]

One of our good friends who has many years of international shooting experience with air rifles (and rim fire and centre fire) has been doing some research into target sizes for us to help resolve this scoring problem, and he has come up with some interesting information to help us explain and resolve the issues we have had raised here on this thread.

Basically 6 yard air rifle shooting is not an international standard ( this is 10 meters) but a national sport that is seldom practiced in many UK target shooting clubs anymore (bell target excepted), and very few competitions are organised for the discipline since the unfortunate demise of NARPA who championed the national 6 yard standard events for us here in the UK for many years.

Previously the old adage - " if it is an air pistol you score UP and if it is an air rifle your score DOWN" may no longer apply on all targets as some of the newer 6 yard air rifle targets have been scaled rather differently to the older 6 yard air rifle targets.

Our friend spoke to Brian Woodal at the NSRA about the 6 yard AIR 7 target on our behalf (he is the man for this type of thing), and he said the Air 7 target is actually the same size as the old pre 1989 10 metre air rifle target but it is easier to shoot at 6yds and was intended to encourage newcomers to target air rifle shooting.

He did point out that the previous 6 yard air rifle target (the Air 1) was designed for outward scoring but it was made obsolete in 1989 leaving the only NSRA rifle target left that was designed for outward scoring as the .22 prone 25 yard target.

So there we have it.

The last time I shot 6 yard air rifle at a paper target it must have been in the early NARPA days and the current NSRA 6 yard air rifle target then was the AIR 1 and it was specifically designed for what we refer to as scoring DOWN.

The revised ( and current) NSRA 6 yard air rifle target is the AIR 7 and the reason why we have had the problems scoring the cards in the "traditional way" for 6 yard air rifles is because the target has been changed for specific use when scoring UP.

Now we are aware of this we should change our scoring method for this 6 yard MPL postal competition to scoring UP exactly as we do in the 6 yard MPL postal air pistol competition.

I will make a change to the first thread so anyone reading it for the first time can see that we have debated the issues caused by different competitors scoring their cards in different ways and that our "traditional" 6 yard rifle scoring DOWN method will not work since the change form the original AIR 1 targets to the current stye AIR7 targets that we are using now.

[wrecker]

Looks like Buzz had got it right then. My scores entered have been scored upward

[Rickenbacker]

Please can I just check to confirm how we score a 10?

i.e. If a shot takes the pip out, it's a 10?

If a shot takes half the pip out, it's still a 10?

If a shot is really close to the pip, but the whole pip remains, it's a 9?

Not that I'm planning on hitting many tens....

[buzzz]

Please can I just check to confirm how we score a 10?

i.e. If a shot takes the pip out, it's a 10?

If a shot takes half the pip out, it's still a 10?

If a shot is really close to the pip, but the whole pip remains, it's a 9?

Not that I'm planning on hitting many tens....

If you look on the NSRA site under scoring there is a diagram (right at the bottom of the page) showing the correct way score a card

[zooma]

Please can I just check to confirm how we score a 10?

i.e. If a shot takes the pip out, it's a 10?YES

If a shot takes half the pip out, it's still a 10?YES

If a shot is really close to the pip, but the whole pip remains, it's a 9?YES

Not that I'm planning on hitting many tens....

Hopefully we will now have everyone scoring their cards in the same way so all scores will relate to each other. You have got it right

[Rickenbacker]

Hopefully we will now have everyone scoring their cards in the same way so all scores will relate to each other. You have got it right

Thank you Bob. Hoping we can carry on with this rifle league as a regular fixture, now the teething troubles are out of the way

[zooma]

Thank you Bob. Hoping we can carry on with this rifle league as a regular fixture, now the teething troubles are out of the way

I hope so too.

It has been a long time since we last had the chance to shoot Classic target air rifles at 6 yards in a national postal league and this competition is open to everyone in the UK, so whilst it is not exactly in the same league as the much loved and missed NARPA series it does bring back some happy memories of better times.

The rifle's used then of course were not Classics but "state of the art" for the time period, but the time delay has been long enough for most of the types used such as the Feinwerkbau 300S and Original Model 66 and 75 to become classics and so this competition brings out the 'feel" of what it was like to shoot in those early NSRA and NARPA postal leagues.

The long time delay since then has seen a change of 6 yard targets (that certainly caught me out) but as you say this is only a small teething problem that has now been sorted out so we should be able to move onwards with a strong series for the future.

It is good to see interested persons contributing to the thread that do not currently take part in the competition and hopefully several more reading the thread that may also be tempted to "have a go" - hopefully in the near future - but if not, their help and guidance has been appreciated.

It is never too late to enter any of the MPL series as long as you are willing to "catch-up" before they end ( this one ends in December 2014) so lets hope we continue to gain more entries as we go along.

[thirdwheel]

Phew, that was interesting waiting and watching in the wings as the scores recorder. Great that everyone helped fathom it out and as Bob says it may have sparked interest just by following the debate. I'm holding fast still and not getting drawn into rifle shooting as well as I'm on a mission to improve my pistol shooting through focussed practice. OH but I'm sorely tempted and finding it very hard to resist, perhaps I should get a classic and teach my daughter to shoot it!!!
Now to revisit the spread sheets and change back the un-corrections I made and repost the results much more fun than other things I'm doing at the moment though.

George