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  1. #1
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    It's such a bloody confusing, frustrating yet characterful rifle, the Lightning.......

    I really want to like them.....I feel an affinity for BSA springers. My first "proper" air rifle was a Meteor Super when I was 14. Shot my first rabbit with that rifle. And a fair few more followed, as well as numerous rats. I had a Mercury for years, which accounted for lots of rabbits and other vermin. And a Challenger, too.

    I owned a Lightning, briefly, at the start of 2011. Beautiful styling. Lightweight. Handy and purposeful. Lovely finish. It was a mint condition Birmingham one. The action felt "tight" and dry. Consistency was AMAZING. But this will have been due to it being so very dry. If I remember correctly, over 10 shots, variation was 1.5fps!

    I ordered a V-Mach kit up for it, as I've always been more than impressed with them and now they transform a rifle. But then, I thought, "Er, hang on, the gun cost £110, tuning kit £72, that means a Lightning is now going to owe me £182". And I'll still have a gun with a barrel pivot pin, as opposed to a proper breech bolt, and a not so brilliant trigger. I rang Steve Pope up and luckily he hadn't made the kit up yet, so I asked him to do me one for one of my 95s instead.

    The £72 that I'd have spent on the kit, plus a little more, saw me the proud owner of yet another 95.

    Not knocking the Lightning. I really want to love them for lots of reasons :- their purposeful nature and to rekindle that love of BSAs I had as a youngster.

    I think if you own one, and you're happy with it, but just want to make it a little more refined then, as long as the cost is not prohibitive and is justifiable, then go for it. The trigger may not be perfect, but you get used to it. If the breech jaws ever open up, they can always be nipped up in a vice.

    You may see reports of inconsistent barrel quality. I've not witnessed this first hand, but would be inclined not to worry, and I've met owners who are really happy with them.

    One thing I think they're excellent at is as a walk-around gun, mainly for standing, instinctive shots. Lovely balance. And the trigger, in that situation, actually seems to suit its demeanour.

    I am lucky enough to own many Weihrauchs. Some tuned; others standard. I love them all and they are all keepers.

    But one gun that I shot recently sticks in my mind. Okay, not a Lightning..




    No, it was a humble Meteor. Owned by our very own Jon Budd. And what a bloody lovely and instinctive rifle to shoot. Lovely firing cycle. I think Jon did the mod to it so that it's running a HW parachute seal, as opposed to the original 'O' ring set up, as it's more forgiving of less than perfect cylinder surface. Maybe it's because it reminded me of my youth. I don't know. But, what I do know is that, if Jon were ever to sell it, and of the price was right, I'd be buying that little beauty from him.

    To sum up, if recommending a rifle from fresh, er, I'd probably, personally, choose quite a few other rifles before I chose the Lightning. But for someone that already owns one, is happy, and simply wishes to improve.......GO FOR IT, I'd say!
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    That's the thing, I love the way the lightning comes to the shoulder, very printable little gun, if I can find some1 to assist me with fitting a v-mach kit i would gladly do it, as for the trigger I like it, it's little heavy but it's nice and positive to use, with a polish job I reason it will only get better

    Tom

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    Welcome Tom to the forum, lots of help on here,,the bsa ultra is a great gun
    to use, not sure on the lightning but if you like its all that matters,would myself prefer an
    hw 95 or a hw99 , but you enjoy your airguns, and if help is needed just ask.
    atb brian

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    Hi Tom
    As all above welcome to BBS, as a recommendation don't go out spending lots of cash straight away on tuning etc give it while see what suits, you may even want to change your rifle at some point
    Atb
    Matt
    Weihrauch HW97 .177, Weihrauch HW80 .22, Weihrauch HW77 .22

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    Welcome to the forum.

    I know exactly why you bought the Lightning, they just look so good. I've come close to buying one on many occasions and still might (if I thought hard enough I could see a gap in my collection for a 1.77 compact hunting springer).

    Are they any better in GRT gas ram form?

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    That's the thing, it's not really worth much as a trade in as I would keep the scope and bag it came with and I don't think the wife would be too happy if I went out and bought another gun so I may as well have it tuned, any one around crawley willing to help me out?

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder666 View Post
    That's the thing, it's not really worth much as a trade in as I would keep the scope and bag it came with and I don't think the wife would be too happy if I went out and bought another gun so I may as well have it tuned, any one around crawley willing to help me out?

    Tom
    Tom, I know exactly where you're coming from. You obviously like the gun, and it does have many good points. And understand fully re justifying to the wife.

    Something like the V-Mach kit will totally transform the firing cycle, but you'll be able to make it much nicer than it is right now for little outlay.

    If you can find someone to help you strip it, then post the spring (if it is in good condition) to someone like UK Neil, he would be able to make you a guide and top hat to exactly match your spring. It would be nice to have some idea of existing power output....if it's already healthy, the flanges of the new guide and top hat will add a little extra preload, so he would be able to shorten your spring a tad and finish the ends of the spring properly for you, also aiding smooth operation.

    One or two other members on here may also offer this service.

    Anyone local to Tom who could help with the strip / re-build?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambo23 View Post

    if I thought hard enough I could see a gap in my collection for a 1.77 compact hunting springer

    Are they any better in GRT gas ram form?
    Maybe not the best of ideas in the smaller calibre.

    Not sure about the gas ram version.
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