Webley Mark I series 3 in lockable case valuation

[outfitter]

These are uncommon in the USA so I am turning to this forum for help in determining value. The pistol works and has a good amount of original finish together with a generous amount of thinning and some pitting. The case (leather trimmed cloth - original) is in fine shape as is the label (just one small 1/2 " patch ripped away).

[Rocket launcher]

do you have any pictures you can post please it really helps when valuing old stuff

[outfitter]

Sorry I've been ill. Had trouble uploading photos from Photobucket. Here is another try

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[ratshot5]

looks nice does it shoot

[Sam99]

looks nice does it shoot

Hello,

I would have thought £400 - £500 for the case alone.

Sam

[gingernut]

Come on Webpistol fiends give this chap from the states your opinions!
I see the pistol is not in great condition but the box adds value.
I won't hazard a guess as its not my thing really.

[Sam99]

Come on Webpistol fiends give this chap from the states your opinions!
I see the pistol is not in great condition but the box adds value.
I won't hazard a guess as its not my thing really.

I thought I had given an opinion

Sam

[Abasmajor]

As you are probably already aware, the case was designed to accommodate the 'Slant Grip ' Senior which first appeared in 1935 and not the pre-1935 'Straight Grip' Senior or Mk1.

Having said that, it does appear to be original and in good condition so is certainly worth much more than the pistol it presently contains.

I can't recall coming across any pre-war cases being offered for sale separately, but would estimate it to be worth somewhere around £400 here in the UK with the pistol being in the region of £150.

Here is a link to a picture of my cased pre-war Senior which contains the correct oil can and pellet tin this for this style of case. As a guide, the original oil cans can fetch around the £300 mark on the few occasions they appear and the pellet tins are normally around £60-£70 or much more if unopened.


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Hope this helps.

Regards

Brian

[Garvin]

Repro of your case, so you can see the difference...

[Josie & John]

As has been pointed out the case and pistol did not start life together. The canvas and leather case was an option from 1938 and intended to house the slant grip Senior. The Mark I pistol is an interesting early variant from around 1925/6 (can't quite make out the serial no), possibly imported by Hoffman Arms rather than Stoeger, who were later associated with importing Webleys into the USA. As to value, the case is a very desirable item and should attract at least £500 on its own from the right buyer as it is in very good order, judging from the pictures. The pistol - probably £160 or so.

John

[outfitter]

looks nice does it shoot

Yes and surprisingly strongly

[outfitter]

As has been pointed out the case and pistol did not start life together. The canvas and leather case was an option from 1938 and intended to house the slant grip Senior. The Mark I pistol is an interesting early variant from around 1925/6 (can't quite make out the serial no), possibly imported by Hoffman Arms rather than Stoeger, who were later associated with importing Webleys into the USA. As to value, the case is a very desirable item and should attract at least £500 on its own from the right buyer as it is in very good order, judging from the pictures. The pistol - probably £160 or so.

John

serial number 10678

[Abasmajor]

The word "PENDING" can just me made out on the left- hand side of the breech unit which would I believe have either read "USA PATENTS PENDING" or "FOREIGN PATENTS PENDING". In the case of "USA PATENT PENDING" this would suggest that the pistol was made before July 1925, the date of the USA patent. If the stamping reads "FOREIGN PATENTS PENDING" it indicates manufacture before December 1925 which is the final date for the Swiss patent.

Regards

Brian

[Josie & John]

Judging from the serial number, my guess is the breech block is stamped 'BRITISH PATENT NO 219872 FOREIGN PATENTS PENDING' and the pistol hails from 1925.

According to the database I'm compiling on the Mark I detailed on another thread!

John