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  1. #1
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    HW40 / Beeman P17

    As mentioned above, the differing designs of the internal actuating lever on the HW40 and Beeman P17 (or at least, my P17).

    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...man10-Copy.jpg

    HW40 (on the left) uses a thin steel plate, with a fancy wire spring sitting around it.

    P17 has a thicker alloy casting with a coil spring set in it.

    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...man11-Copy.jpg

    How the P17 lever works, fitting it outside the gun. As soon as the gun is opened, and the compression cylinder rises, the lever is able to rock back - forced by the spring, that is - and the right hand tip of it pushes the safety 'on'.

    Bear in mind, of course, that the external button/slider of the safety catch extends further forward than it does inside the gun.

    Iain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain K D View Post
    As mentioned above, the differing designs of the internal actuating lever on the HW40 and Beeman P17 (or at least, my P17).

    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...man10-Copy.jpg

    HW40 (on the left) uses a thin steel plate, with a fancy wire spring sitting around it.

    P17 has a thicker alloy casting with a coil spring set in it.

    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...man11-Copy.jpg

    How the P17 lever works, fitting it outside the gun. As soon as the gun is opened, and the compression cylinder rises, the lever is able to rock back - forced by the spring, that is - and the right hand tip of it pushes the safety 'on'.

    Bear in mind, of course, that the external button/slider of the safety catch extends further forward than it does inside the gun.

    Iain
    I didn't know the internals were different but my two p17's and HW40 are working fine with the on off switch removed. Thanks for the info though. ATB. Pete.
    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

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    I have now removed the auto safety cam from my HW40, so now I have a fully working manual safety

    http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/x...pscvjgzvmw.jpg

    This was mentioned and shown in photos by Iain K D.

    It took literally a couple of minutes (and will be easy to re-install as required):

    - With pistol not cocked, safety ON.
    - Knock pin out of forward part of trigger guard (this was not a particularly tight fit)
    - Lift up top cover (not fully), place something under the cylinder to hold it up a little
    - Remove the cam and spring (spring usually held in place with blob of grease), small bent nose pliers useful for this
    - Close top cover
    - Insert pin back in.

    Manual Safety...as most other SSPs are!

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