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    Short stroked MK 1 TX200.

    Yesterday at Atherton indoor range one of the shooters had a short stroked Mk 1 in 177.

    The bluing had become tatty over time, and the previous owner had polished it down to the bare metal. It looked very nice. He had also short stroked it and done some other things to the internals, as well as fit a Rowan Engineering adjustable trigger - the post and shoe job.

    The new owner was kind enough to let me take a few shots with it.

    I was amazed. The lock time was extremely fast and gun hardly moved at all. The Rowan trigger was superb and set up to break like glass. I didn't shoot it long enough to assess accuracy in any meaningful way but it knocked down whatever I pointed it at. It was so smooth to shoot however that ,even in the unlikely event of it being no more accurate for all the work that had gone into it than an unfettled Mk 1, I would buy one like it tomorrow if I could.

    I love my Walther LGU, but this TX put it to shame.

    I had never heard of a Mk1 being short stroked before. Does this come as a surprise to anyone else?

    The TX is now at the top of my list for next gun to buy. I'll probably have to settle for a MK3, but I will then find someone to try and get it something like the Mk1 I shot. I will also get a Rowan trigger for it when funds allow. It was a revelation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur John Smithsplease View Post
    Yesterday at Atherton indoor range one of the shooters had a short stroked Mk 1 in 177.

    The bluing had become tatty over time, and the previous owner had polished it down to the bare metal. It looked very nice. He had also short stroked it and done some other things to the internals, as well as fit a Rowan Engineering adjustable trigger - the post and shoe job.

    The new owner was kind enough to let me take a few shots with it.

    I was amazed. The lock time was extremely fast and gun hardly moved at all. The Rowan trigger was superb and set up to break like glass. I didn't shoot it long enough to assess accuracy in any meaningful way but it knocked down whatever I pointed it at. It was so smooth to shoot however that ,even in the unlikely event of it being no more accurate for all the work that had gone into it than an unfettled Mk 1, I would buy one like it tomorrow if I could.

    I love my Walther LGU, but this TX put it to shame.

    I had never heard of a Mk1 being short stroked before. Does this come as a surprise to anyone else.

    The TX is now at the top of my list for next gun to buy. I'll probably have to settle for a MK3, but I will then find someone to try and get it something like the Mk1 I shot. I will also get a Rowan trigger for it when funds allow. It was a revelation.

    A standard mk3 wont feel anything like a short stroked mk1. I suggest you either buy a mk1 or 2 with the shorter stroke, or get a mk3 and do it yourself. There is a wealth of information on here, Jon Budd would be the first person I'd ask

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    Thanks for the reply, but this was a Mk1 (ie. already short stroked) which had been short stroked further. I have never heard of this being done before.
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    Tx200 mk1

    Must agree they shoot amazing. Not long had mine back from VMACH and just had a service but had the match trigger conversion done on mine. Puts my lazaglide 77's to shame being much nicer to shoot. The trigger is wonderful due to the fact the MK1's are a copy of the famous Mach 1 trigger. Rikard did a good thread on here about the two triggers awhile ago.

    If you do find a TX200 MK1 for sale....BUY IT.

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    I think you may be referring to my old gun. The new owner (Rick) is a very good friend of mine and I still regret selling it to him.

    The gun has not actually been short stroked it is a standard Mk1 that has a shorter stroke from the factory than the MK3 guns. It is currently running a Vortek O-ring piston seal and aside froma bit of a polish (internal and external) it is pretty standard.

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    Thanks for putting me straight Captain.

    What a superb shooter.

    How could you?
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    Hello Arthus ... I think if you asked Wonky Donky or perhaps bigtoe01, one of them would be able to re-engineer (that term covers the kind of tunes they do) your Walther LGU to match the performance of the TX you shot. Might save you some time hunting one of the old Mk 1's down ...

    Then you could save some money and spend the extra on an HW80....

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    Absolutely no reason an LGU couldn't be setup to shoot like a MK1 TX.. just chop 6mm off the stroke, open the port a bit, lighten the piston a bit, job done

    Incidentally the whole TX doesn't need to be a MK1, just the piston (which is what defines the stroke) - and the MK1 and 2 are the same piston/stroke.

    HTH - JB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Hello Arthus ... I think if you asked Wonky Donky or perhaps bigtoe01, one of them would be able to re-engineer (that term covers the kind of tunes they do) your Walther LGU to match the performance of the TX you shot. Might save you some time hunting one of the old Mk 1's down ...

    Then you could save some money and spend the extra on an HW80....
    True.

    But then I'd have to get them to sort out the 80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Then you could save some money and spend the extra on an HW80....
    Hang on, this isn't Alistair.........He'd be recommending you buy an HW35.

    Ban this imposter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Hello Arthus ... I think if you asked Wonky Donky or perhaps bigtoe01, one of them would be able to re-engineer (that term covers the kind of tunes they do) your Walther LGU to match the performance of the TX you shot. Might save you some time hunting one of the old Mk 1's down ...

    Then you could save some money and spend the extra on an HW80....
    The LGU is undoubtedly a well made gun with great potential for tuning.

    Not sure its trigger could be made to perform like a Rekord or AA unit though.
    Arthur

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