more idiots with air rifles

[speedthing]

Yet another idiot


The pub owner pulled an air gun on his customers (model pic)The pub owner pulled an air gun on his customers (model pic)
I remember saying: ‘What are you doing, why have you got a gun?
Punter Alys Owen
The drinkers left but began kicking the doors and banging on windows outside.

Gareth Sale, 26, went upstairs and returned with the weapon, scaring customers still inside, a court was told yesterday.

Problems began when landlady Sheridan Graham insisted people order in English because she could not understand Welsh.

The couple had moved to the Royal Oak in Penrhyndeudraeth, Gwynedd, last summer.

Punter Alys Owen told the jury via a video link from Glasgow:

“Someone tried to order a drink in Welsh and the landlady was telling them not to speak Welsh at the bar. She was quite aggressive and quite loud. Locals were getting quite angry and starting to shout.”

Alys claimed she “freaked out” after seeing Sale with an air rifle under his arm.

She said: “I remember saying: ‘What are you doing, why have you got a gun?’ He said: ‘I just want to scare them,’ talking about the people outside.”

Sion ap Mihangel, prosecuting, told Caernarfon Crown Court: “His case is, as they were new to the area and didn’t speak Welsh, they asked their customers to order drinks in English.

“Some of their drinkers became aggressive.”

Judge Peter Heywood said: “He accepts he went upstairs and got the air gun, somewhat foolishly, and no doubt affected by drink, because there was a baying mob kicking and banging at the door.”

Sale, from Gateshead, admitted possessing a firearm in a public place. He denied possessing a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence.

[speedthing]

Tho this is from the daily star.

[angrybear]

What a pair of *uckwits, buying a pub in a welsh speaking area & refusing to accommodate the language.

[gingernut]

Well just buying a pub really.

[speedthing]

Yeah some people never learn LOL

[Rob Edge]

What a pair of *uckwits, buying a pub in a welsh speaking area & refusing to accommodate the language.

Why should they accommodate the language. It's their pub so they make the rules. The locals have to abide by the landlords rules or go elsewhere.

[bighit]

The case was 2 years ago http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-n...wales-19648835
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...ffence-2060191

[knighty]

Why should they accommodate the language. It's their pub so they make the rules. The locals have to abide by the landlords rules or go elsewhere.

here here well said that man

[speedthing]

I've just seen that but it did come up on a news page i was looking at but it didn't have a date on it LOL good old tinternet

[tacfoley]

What a pair of *uckwits, buying a pub in a welsh speaking area & refusing to accommodate the language.

Exactly so.

They could both have enrolled in a local language-learning group, or better still engaged one or two of the locals to help introduce them to the language. After all, Welsh IS the language of Wales, and was here long before those blonde geezers with axes and longboats got here.

And for those lucky people on the other side of Offa's Dike -

Gallent mae'r ddau wedi cofrestru yn y grŵp dysgu Cymraeg lleol, neu hyd yn oed yn well, gofynnodd un neu ddau o'r bobl leol i ddysgu yr iaith iddynt. Pan fydd yr holl cael ei ddweud ac yn ei wneud, Cymraeg yw iaith Cymru, a bu yma yn hir cyn goresgynwyr 'blonde' hynny - neu hyd yn oed y Rhufeiniaid - cyrraedd yma.

tac

[speedthing]

on the link i found they showed a pic of the gun and it weren't any run of the mill thing looked like a very expensive target pistol.

[angrybear]

Why should they accommodate the language. It's their pub so they make the rules. The locals have to abide by the landlords rules or go elsewhere.

For the same reason that we expect immigrants that come to England to learn to speak English, rather than say xxxx-you it's my shop order in Urdu/Farsi/Punjarbi/whatever or go elsewhere.

common courtesy to the indigenous population.

[ratshot5]

if i had a pub it would say on the door no welsh

[Rob Edge]

For the same reason that we expect immigrants that come to England to learn to speak English, rather than say xxxx-you it's my shop order in Urdu/Farsi/Punjarbi/whatever or go elsewhere.

common courtesy to the indigenous population.

So wrong. If you want to live in the UK speak English. If you want Wales to be a country on its own then I will help dig a ditch to keep you sheep molesters in.

[fatttmannn]

if i had a pub it would say on the door no welsh

and it wouldnt take long for you to be done for racism
a nice fat fine and you would very quockly loose your vintiners license, or you would if I had anything to do with ite