guns you got and was dissapointed with

[fatttmannn]

The original mod 50, always wanted one after hearing my older brother talk about the one he owned in the 60's. I got a 1980 model & although it was always accurate for a .22 springer it took me 4 years & a few piston seals & mainsprings to get it above 10ft/lbs . Finally got rid as the short cocking lever & bad leverage brought my tennis elbow back.(it ended up shooting best with a standard hw77 spring & the old leather seal with a ptfe seal behind it.) On the plus side I can rebuild original 3 ball bearing triggers blindfolded!

On my 3rd Original 50
all in .22

[fatttmannn]

Stalker S10
SH but still expensive
Complete pain in a.
3 years owned and still being fixed!!
To be fair it doesnt leak but everything else is hopeless.
Latest problem is a rattle from inside and failing to cock now and again.

ouch, a friend had an expensive Merc like that, I would have crushed it but Shes more stubborn than me and eventually got it working

[fatttmannn]

I have to agree with the above .
In their day they were very good ! Innovative to the extreme, ( Did Bsa, or Webley ever make a recoiless rifle ? Or a multishot break barrel repeater )
Whilst in the same vein, Did any of these 2 Or others make all these models inlcuding an SSP ( Used at the Olympics )

Whilst all have there foibles, I consider all 3 to be light years ahead of there time,
Have you ever fired a " Statical " recoiless rifle ? ( They work ) Or a repeating Paratrooper , ( They work )Or indeed the " Supertarget " It works ( Sometimes ) Ha ha
My Mods including a power upgrade on the Statical & The Supertarget transform them.,

At the time & For the money I consider them great buy,s & Excellent shooters ( I have a couple of all 3 ) In next to mint & 3 shooters .
Ged.

Hi Ged, thanks for the inputt, how did you improve the [power on the Statical please
mine dose 9.5 with crossman domes

[gingernut]

The Stalker works.
But not often!

[I. J.]

My biggest disappointment ? … A 35E Vixen.

Around 1980 I bought a new HW35E Vixen - mail order.
I bought it to use for hunting not collecting. I was disappointed from day one.
I was 35 years younger then and when I complained about the lack of power and was told it would improve with age I believed it.
Looking back I think you could just about see the pellet leave the barrel. Things didn’t get better with time.

I took it to Manchester Airguns who chrono’d it and laughed.
I remember the gun having a chrome spring / piston sleeve ????
Anyway, MAG didn’t have a replacement chrome spring so a standard spring was fitted.
It changed the gun completely. A standard spring though. It should have a chrome spring being a “ Vixen “
A year or two later I swapped it for a boxed 0.25 Service , which I still have.

My Vixen came with a sheep skin lined cover and a HW Test Target.
I still have the cover and possibly the Test Target.
I’ll have a rummage for the target as It may have the guns Ser No on it ???
If so , It would be interesting to see if the gun still survives and if its owned by a BBS member.

Sam

IIRC the Vixens were advertised guaranteed to exceed 600 fps in .22 and 800fps in .177 !!! It doesn't state the weight of the pellets used ;-). I have also read (Dennis Hiller books?) the if the main spring doesn't break within the first hundred shots it will last a lifetime. Did yours have a broken spring? Didn't they also come with a little bronze medallion?

Good thread.

ATB
Ian

[PCPShooter]

Everything that I have ever owned by Gamo!

LOL Me - Gamo 440 Hunter .

[fatttmannn]

IIRC the Vixens were advertised guaranteed to exceed 600 fps in .22 and 800fps in .177 !!! It doesn't state the weight of the pellets used ;-). I have also read (Dennis Hiller books?) the if the main spring doesn't break within the first hundred shots it will last a lifetime. Did yours have a broken spring? Didn't they also come with a little bronze medallion?

Good thread.

ATB
Ian

Thanks for your inputt IJ Never changed the spring in my Vixen, still 11.5 with air arms domes

[Ormicron]

BSA 240 Magnum, what a disaster! Couldn't hit a pig in a well greased entry. Put new shims and breech seal in useless. Now gathering dust.

[landymick]

Yes they came with the medallion as well.Velocities advertised as 5.5mm will exceed 600 fps,4.5mm will exceed 750 fps with variation of only 2.5% from there old advert.Oh & the medallion was Copper.

[jonnyone]

Not so much a gun but a barrel. I bought a Harper .25 barrel for my HW80. It was the same cost as a factory barrel but I was impatient and would not wait for the factory product. Also the so called super spin rifling caught my interest. So I eagerly looked forward to having the ultimate ratting outfit. What a crock of s**t. Barrel was stupid tight. Dragged power down. Had betted target patterns with my 12. The most lethal thing that you could do to a rat with the thing was to club it with the dam thing.
Still got the useless lump of steel somewhere.

[p.sharp]

The Webley tracker I finally got after craving one for many years. Nice looking rifles, which kind of made up for the utterly shocking performance.

I probably tried every pellet produced, and still couldn't get 2 shots near each other at 15yrds! Then there was the power issue that I couldn't overcome. 8ftlbs was the absolute maximum I could get out of it, even with all sorts of new fangled seals etc.

[I. J.]

Yes they came with the medallion as well.Velocities advertised as 5.5mm will exceed 600 fps,4.5mm will exceed 750 fps with variation of only 2.5% from there old advert.Oh & the medallion was Copper.

I was close.

[fatttmannn]

BSA 240 Magnum, what a disaster! Couldn't hit a pig in a well greased entry. Put new shims and breech seal in useless. Now gathering dust.

not just me then, I can hit anything with mine series 2 in .22 and I am a preatey good pistol shot

[fatttmannn]

The Webley tracker I finally got after craving one for many years. Nice looking rifles, which kind of made up for the utterly shocking performance.

I probably tried every pellet produced, and still couldn't get 2 shots near each other at 15yrds! Then there was the power issue that I couldn't overcome. 8ftlbs was the absolute maximum I could get out of it, even with all sorts of new fangled seals etc.

I have the longer barell version the Viscount, it dose 10.5 with air arms domes thanks for your inputt

[fatttmannn]

Not so much a gun but a barrel. I bought a Harper .25 barrel for my HW80. It was the same cost as a factory barrel but I was impatient and would not wait for the factory product. Also the so called super spin rifling caught my interest. So I eagerly looked forward to having the ultimate ratting outfit. What a crock of s**t. Barrel was stupid tight. Dragged power down. Had betted target patterns with my 12. The most lethal thing that you could do to a rat with the thing was to club it with the dam thing.
Still got the useless lump of steel somewhere.

thanks for your inputt, you have allso saved me a few boob there has was offerd a hw80 with a .25 harper liner and I couldnt hot owt with it the other day so will save my cash.