Old air rifle ID - any ideas please?

[Dodgerover]

I'm trying to work out what my dads old air rifle is. The only info I have is that it is at least 50 years old - probably more as I doubt it would have been bought new, believed to be German. Caliber is a bit questionable - I tried a modern .22 pellet and it is too tight to fire so I'm guessing it may be a .20? a .177 is too small.
It looks a bit odd in this photo not sure why it looks like the barrel isn't lined up correctly....


Only markings I can find are the 4 digit serial number and a circled B.

Can anybody shed any light on what it is and where I can get spares from please.

Thanks very much

Edit close up photos:

[air-tech]

Ooh, no idea but someone will surely be along soon.

However you will certainly be able to sort out the essentials spares-wise without too much difficulty. Piston and breech seals would be made of leather and are easily re-made.

Sourcing a spring that works won't be difficult either.

Re the barrel angle - that's almost certainly a result of a flattened breech seal. In these types of guns i.e. vintage and entry level the barrel angle is determined by the thickness of the breech seal, the breech just shuts directly onto the seal.

I would fit a new seal, then use appropriate washers behind the seal to fine tune the barrel angle, as it will be close to impossible to make up a seal that gives the right angle straight from the off - in any case it may change over time as the seal takes a set.

No need for the angle to be perfect as the sights are on the barrel, however an upwards tilt is no good as it won't allow you to use the rear sight, a little downwards will be fine.

[ogilkes]

You have, I think, an old Relum/FEG breakbarrel or telly. Its an early one 1960s I reckon. A classic of imported Hungarian commie manufacture, and one of the rifles which introduced legions of shooters to airgunning.

[I. J.]

You have, I think, an old Relum/FEG breakbarrel or telly. Its an early one 1960s I reckon. A classic of imported Hungarian commie manufacture, and one of the rifles which introduced legions of shooters to airgunning.

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. and put hundreds off!

I thought it was a Relum but the calibre querry put me off. A .20 Relum????

ATB
Ian

[Dodgerover]

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. and put hundreds off!

I thought it was a Relum but the calibre querry put me off. A .20 Relum????

ATB
Ian

I'll get my digital mic out and check the caliber be to sure, are parts for them available at all? Also forgot to say its a smooth bore - no sign of rifling in the barrel
Appreciating the help.

[Dodgerover]

Would Relum/ FEG tally with the circled B stamp or could that be a date code? Any idea if there would be any other markings?
From what i was told it wasn't a bad gun at all in its day, certainly recalled as being better/ lighter/ more powerful than the modern cheapy he's currently using for vermin control - although things are always better looking back
Thank you

[18 Wheeler]

Another vote for something with Relum genes.

Numerous variants/brands, but the excellent Vintage Airgun Gallery is always worth consulting, have a look at the Raven & Junior.

Then there's always Frakor's Wonderwall were most permutations of air rifle reside allowing easy comparison. See the linked photo below...

My first air rifle was a Relum (actually branded as TELLY) breakbarrel ,that was all I could afford, 30 years ago.
Later in life they started my collecting habit ...

Frank

The calibre question is a bit perplexing, it may simply be that you have some largish .22's (5.6mm) rather than the smaller 5.5mm pellets favoured by the european manufacturers?

[flatrajectory]

The photo isn't very sharp. Some high res close ups of the breech and cylinder may help.
It could be one of many makes, including Slavia / Carl Gustav / Diana / BSF to name but a few.
Better pics please.
Pete.