100s+ Pics for all LOVERS of 'BSA and Lincoln Jeffries Vintage air rifles.

**chieffool** · 06-03-2015, 03:18 PM

Dear all.....
....have a look at my little friend?
With many thanks to Pegasus for allowing me to become the new custodian of this lovely 1905 BSA Standard (first batch) - serial: 1946

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....nt-Serial-1946

Spending a lovely afternoon in the sun plinking away as we get aquainted.

edbear2 · 08-04-2015, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Scratch

I got to have a close look at this gun today, and the re-finish and the stock especially are real quality. I know there are divided opinions on re-blueing these old guns, but the work on this has been done very well, with no loss to various stampings...But the stock...OMG!

I asked a couple of stockmakers a couple of years ago to quote on a stock for a Lincoln in xxxx grade Walnut, both quotes were near £600

The grain and workmanship quality on this stock is easily that good, it really needs better photos / seeing up close, and the ''spare'' original stock that came with the gun is in perfect order too.

I am doing

a lot, because I found out what was paid

(A bargain!)

ATB, Ed

**fatttmannn** · 08-04-2015, 02:24 PM

You bad man, thats pure- gun porn of the highest order

lovley though

**chieffool** · 08-04-2015, 05:24 PM

I agree about the stock - quite exceptional. But am i right 'edbear' that you also either had something to do with getting the photos of:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/67044...SA+Light+Model

Only asking because that gun contains so many examples of superlative gun finishing i don't know where to begin.
Just out of interest.... how much would that cost to 'repeat' nowadays?

if a stock is £600... (and presumably includes the checkering)
...i think the case hardening is probably at least the same and probably more (trigger block, tap, tap plate, trigger guard)...maybe: £750?
...rebluing AND 'donor gun' stripped, serviced and rebuilt 'professionally': £750 (and that would probably also be a bargain)....
...inlaid gold work: £500?
...and finally:
...the engraving. Any guesstimate? (the work on this gun is exquisite!!! ... and the lion's head on the trigger block is just extraordinary).

Seriously - what price? over £4000 and under £5000? ... or more!?!

edbear2 · 08-04-2015, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by chieffool

I agree about the stock - quite exceptional. But am i right 'edbear' that you also either had something to do with getting the photos of:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/67044...SA+Light+Model

Only asking because that gun contains so many examples of superlative gun finishing i don't know where to begin.
Just out of interest.... how much would that cost to 'repeat' nowadays?

if a stock is £600... (and presumably includes the checkering)
...i think the case hardening is probably at least the same and probably more (trigger block, tap, tap plate, trigger guard)...maybe: £750?
...rebluing AND 'donor gun' stripped, serviced and rebuilt 'professionally': £750 (and that would probably also be a bargain)....
...inlaid gold work: £500?
...and finally:
...the engraving. Any guesstimate? (the work on this gun is exquisite!!! ... and the lion's head on the trigger block is just extraordinary).

Seriously - what price? over £4000 and under £5000? ... or more!?!

The guy who did the engraving normally does £40-70,000 express rifles, and the work, and Gold / Rose Gold / Platinum / Silver inlay and carving on the BSA was to his same standard as on these bespoke collectors express rifles.

The stock was a normal BSA one just chequered so not really the same standard, he was trying really hard to source a nice piece of wood but failed at the time I got it.

Price wise the main cost was the labour and materials for engraving, the doner gun was a very average light so maybe £150, to strip I don't know, the re-blue say £60-80 but the engraving and inlay as I said was very expensive, and to sell even at cost I recall it was around the £4,000 mark at his normal charge out fee as charged at the firm he worked for.

But as he did it at home, It could have been sold cheaper, maybe high £2,000's, low £3,000's (again I am not 100% sure so don't quote me!).

It was delivered to me finished in bits, and I had the job of building it, setting the power and fitting and adjusting the sights.

Putting an old BSA together (and apart 3 or 4 times to play with springs / washers etc.) has never been so stressful

One slip.......

ATB, Ed

**chieffool** · 08-04-2015, 05:48 PM

....and as even each 'screw head' is engraved.... you really don't want to 'mash' one of those up.

I am beyond jealous - a sort of state of calm acceptance - BUT there is a small part of me that is soothed to know it really exists.
Does it have a commensurate gun case to rest in?

**Binners** · 08-04-2015, 05:50 PM

http://www.network54.com/Forum/67044...rial+no.+17741

edbear2 · 08-04-2015, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Binners

http://www.network54.com/Forum/67044...rial+no.+17741

Don't rub it in.....

At least it has a good home mate

ATB, Ed

edbear2 · 08-04-2015, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by chieffool

....and as even each 'screw head' is engraved.... you really don't want to 'mash' one of those up.

I am beyond jealous - a sort of state of calm acceptance - BUT there is a small part of me that is soothed to know it really exists.
Does it have a commensurate gun case to rest in?

It was originally in a glass case, I don't know what the current owner has to protect it, maybe it's just out in his shed!

I invested years ago in a set of these;

http://www.montrosegunsandtackle.co....et-500x500.jpg

As well as various parallel ground inserts of any size I could find to fit a standard 1/4" drive handle, the cost soon repays itself in lack of damage, and a good fit means you can tackle stiff fasteners with confidence.

ATB, Ed

**chieffool** · 08-04-2015, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by edbear2

It was originally in a glass case, I don't know what the current owner has to protect it, maybe it's just out in his shed!

I invested years ago in a set of these;

http://www.montrosegunsandtackle.co....et-500x500.jpg

As well as various parallel ground inserts of any size I could find to fit a standard 1/4" drive handle, the cost soon repays itself in lack of damage, and a good fit means you can tackle stiff fasteners with confidence.

ATB, Ed

Someone on this forum gave me some excellent advice which I followed. I scoured junk shops for old screwdrivers which I seem to be able to find with lovely wooden handles, dirt cheap as basically just old tools.... And I reground them. Gives you a lovely parallel ground blade. So far have all I need to fit my guns, though would probably consider the investment in a professional set it I was working on a high volume of other people's guns

**Bob P** · 18-07-2015, 07:47 PM

Took this picture today at our vintage hft shoot.
Bob

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/...sgdtobhum.jpeg

**Josie & John** · 19-07-2015, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Splund

Took this picture today at our vintage hft shoot.
Bob

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/...sgdtobhum.jpeg

Great to see the old BSAs in use use Bob. What sort of targets and distances were used?

John

**Bob P** · 20-07-2015, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Josie & John

Great to see the old BSAs in use use Bob. What sort of targets and distances were used?

John

I believe they were 25m to 40mm kill zone knock over style targets, anywhere from 8 to 35 yards. 15 targets, each one shot prone, kneeling and standing so a maximum of 90 points.
It's a real joy to shoo without adjustable cheek piece, hamsters and scopes etc. Mine is a 1930(ish) .177 with flip up peep sights but I get on better with the standard notch and post sights.
Bob

**Josie & John** · 21-07-2015, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Splund

I believe they were 25m to 40mm kill zone knock over style targets, anywhere from 8 to 35 yards. 15 targets, each one shot prone, kneeling and standing so a maximum of 90 points.
It's a real joy to shoo without adjustable cheek piece, hamsters and scopes etc. Mine is a 1930(ish) .177 with flip up peep sights but I get on better with the standard notch and post sights.
Bob

Thanks Bob - that sounds like an interesting shoot. Do you find your point of impact varies much when shooting from different positions?

Peep sights are great in good light but in a dark wood, opens are easier to use as you say. I find a dab of red on the foresight bead helps to pick up the sight in a dark wood too.

John

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