Mystery pistol! Anyone help ID??

[johnbaz]

Hi all

A lad on Facebook asked if I knew anything about this pistol but I must admit that i'm a bit stumped!!

It looks like it says Norical Zip on the side, these are the only two pics he sent, I think he's thinking of buying it, I thought it was a Spanish Norica as did the lads father but the owner thinks it far Easternm European!!

Pic 1

Pic 2


Actually, The first letter looks like an 'M' to me now



Cheers, John

[El Garro]

Is it a later version of a hy-score pistol ?

[johnbaz]

Is it a later version of a hy-score pistol ?

I said to the lad that the grips looked similar to my HyScore sporter but on the close up pic, they're wood grips , Mine are black plastic

I think it's older than the HyScore myself, Also it looks like Monkey metal (Zinc alloy or Mazak) The HiScores are steel...



Cheers, john

[Garvin]

Hi all

A lad on Facebook asked if I knew anything about this pistol but I must admit that i'm a bit stumped!!

It looks like it says Norical Zip on the side, these are the only two pics he sent, I think he's thinking of buying it, I thought it was a Spanish Norica as did the lads father but the owner thinks it far Easternm European!!

Pic 1

Pic 2


Actually, The first letter looks like an 'M' to me now



Cheers, John

Mondial Zip, John. I think it's missing a barrel...

[aimless]

Yes, it is a ZIP mondial produced by Modesto Molgora, Mailand. Produced between 1984 to 2000.
b.r. Jochen

[keith66]

Mate of mine bought one when i was at college, though built of pot metal they were quite good pistols.
I remember first time out my mate was shooting at a beer tin down falmouth harbour. The tin was drifting further & further out & he wasnt hitting it. I asked for a go & he gave me the pistol loaded, i snapped a shot from the hip & drilled the can at a good 25 yards which promptly sank. There were 3 witnesses & i handed it back with a nonchalant blow across the muzzle! Couldnt do it again if i tried!

[dogsbody]

Zip Air Pistol made by Mondial of Italy. Introduced in 1976. See "Guns Review" July 1976.
More info in Collector's Guide to Airpistols 3rd edition by Dennis E. Hiller p.253
And as Garvin pointed out missing most, if not all of its barrel

atb
dogsbody

[air-tech]

Must be worth all of £20... if it had a barrel.

As is, worth a trip to a skip!

[johnbaz]

Ha ha!!

Thanks everyone!!

I'll pass the info on and tell him to leave well alone!!



Cheers, John

[Abasmajor]

Nice grips for a pistol which was presumably meant for the lower end of the market.

Regards

Brian

[hebhaggis]

I'd buy it for £20 even without the barrel ....makes a change to the usual rough Scorpions and oversprayed ( a la thick pudding black ) Webleys from the same periods .

[johnbaz]

The best of it, I picked up my copy of The collectors guide to Airpistols up and it fell open at exactly the page for this gun! (Page 253!) It always drops open at the page as it's falling apart and that is the first page that has let go!! (Rubbish quality book

Ooof!! Ha ha ha!!



John

[aimless]

to my post # 5:
this model is described in "Die Luftpistole - 3rd ed. " by B.Brukner page 68f as: built between 1984 - 2000.

This book is the most comprehensive book for airpistols in Germany.

[air-tech]

I'd buy it for £20 even without the barrel ....makes a change to the usual rough Scorpions and oversprayed ( a la thick pudding black ) Webleys from the same periods .

You probably wouldn't if you had a look inside, your "rough Scorpions" are precision engineering in comparison.

The innards are almost certainly monkey metal, including the cylinder. At least that was what my Oklahoma was like (same factory similar gun).

Barrel catch had broken (monkey metal) so not repairable, had to hold barrel up by hand... then the cylinder gave up where the pins at the rear retain the mainspring... not repairable, so the external shell (what you can see) ended up standing in for a rear cylinder block. Oh and did I mention that the barrel and breech was monkey metal too, barrel lined with a brass sleeve.

These guns were little more than functional toys built down to a (very low) price.

But lots of fun for a 10yr old...