You haven't explained why you can't get any closer, is lack of fieldcraft or what?
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You haven't explained why you can't get any closer, is lack of fieldcraft or what?
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A late reply I know but you say you want a scope for hunting rabbits at range and for hft. Firstly I think the effective and safe range for rabbits has been answered but you say your rifle is fac @ 30ft/lb surely hft is a sub 12ft/lb limit so how do you shoot with 30ft/lb. As for scope good glass and front objective no bigger than 44mm for hft you need good depth of field because you have to preset your scope at around 25 yards and not allowed to use it for range finding.
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Just wanna chuck this little gem into the mix here as we all seem to be giving 'digweed' a wee bit of a roasting, why is it that a certain airgunner who'll have to stay nameless is posting videos of himself on 'YouTube' shooting Crows and Rabbits at anywhere upto 75yds whilst claiming that the rifle he's using is 11.6fpe and in fact 'apparently' all of his air rifles are set at 11.6fpe with the emphasis on 'apparently' cos it sure as hell whacks em over with relative ease at those ranges, doesn't set a good example to other shooters/new airgunners now does it !...
Dare I suggest that he's either 'bullshitting us' and his rifles are running far hotter than he's letting on in which case he's in possession of an illegal firearm and covering his tracks or air rifles are are far more capable than they are given credit for !...
Your thoughts on the subject would be welcomed !...👍
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Got to agree there, is does get a bit holier than thow on here sometimesOriginally Posted by TORNADOS7
To answer the question, I would look at Vortex or Nikon, good 'glass' for the money & both have a choice of reticle styles.
John
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Remember that ole "Practice what you preach" chestnut well there seems to be a whole heap of preaching going on but not so much of the 'practice' from what I can see of it and 'NO' before anyone gets up on their high horse it's not a crack at anybody in particular !...👍Got to agree there, is does get a bit holier than thow on here sometimes
John
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I use a Hakko 8-32 x 56 - and I wouldn't say it encourages me to take shots that are "too far" Yes, there have been instances where I shouldn't have taken a shot but have, but that was down to frustration not the scope mag. (as it happens the shot I was thinking of was probably the best shot I ever made... but that is beside the point)
With a side-wheel focus scope you are able to get a confirmation of range and therefore a better idea of "point of aim" it still won't make anyone a better shot for holding steady or estimating drift, but it helps me for shot placement. On the against side target acquisition can sometimes be an issue if you have it wound-up, 20x is usually more than adequate and many compete at 10 x or even less.
Now to what you asked...
A Tasco Custom shop used to be the way to go when I was really in to my shooting (or Hakko in my case)
For these days the Falcon, MTC or Hawke Sidewinder series seem pretty good on performance / £? BUT I have been out of shooting as my prime hobby for 7 or 8 years.
Many years ago I found myself having won a Hawke Scope during a test for a fledgling HFT test shoot (Cheers Sparky) I didn't realise there was a prize until Sparky thrust it into my hand at the end of the day! I competed with a my Rapid MK1 (.22 @ 11.6 ftp on a crombo) topped with the Hakko Set at 10x. If you are intending to do FT then it is doable but as mentioned earlier with this kind of scope the depth of field view is limited so you may want to take that into consideration and go for a smaller objective lens which seem to be less fussy on depth of field. ( IMO) As for the Hawke I won perhaps 10 or 12 years ago, it's still good as new.
As previously mentioned about shooting live quarry, for rabbits I generally stick below the 40yrd mark, rats - rarely beyond 25 and for feathers about the same... maybe up to 30 rested firing point.
Good luck with your scope hunt.
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Even for the best Olympic class shooter in the world, 75yds with a sub 12 is both stupid & immoral on live targets, fine to practice/show off at paper, but air time for the pellet gives too much chance of a live target moving.
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I've often shot at those sort of ranges but only at static targets like golf balls, pine cones, eggs, spoon targets etc. etc. just for the hell of it and to be quite honest with you as long as the conditions are rite it's easily achievable with springer or PCP but as for 'live targets' I'm quite happy to give it a miss and stick to sensible ranges which for me would realistically be around the 35-40yd mark barring in mind I'll quite happily slot 10x .22 sized shots inside a 5p sized ring at 25yds from a supported shooting position !... 👍
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Leaving aside the argument about the OPs ability that seems to have cropped up, I think a reasonable scope would be something around 4-12 x magnification, and if combined with a 44/50mm objective would give maximum brightness when set at around 6/7x magnification - so would be bright, clear, and able to use at a higher mag in better light or for HFT set to 10x which many shooters seem to prefer?
So with the above in mind I'd look at either one of the premium brands like Leupold/Burris etc. or try something at half the price like a Hawke Endurance/sidewinder, Falcon Menace etc.
Best advice is to get a look through these before spending your money, different people's eyes prefer different scopes, and sometimes you pay twice the price for a fraction better quality, which is fine if your ok with what your buying, but it's disappointing when if your honest you can't tell the difference.
James
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Don't think anybody is arguing about the OP's ability (well I'm not anyway) just hotly debating the merits of what's an acceptable range for an air rifle anyway I'm currently running a 'Hawke Reflex 3-10x44 MD' parallax set at 40yds which when set on 10x allows me to count the fleas in a rabbits ear at 35yds so based on that any higher and I should think you'd be able to determin his 'red blood cell count' haha !...
On a serious note though, how much more do you really need to be able to see for Christ sake !...
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