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    1.I tend not to take advice from people who wave guns around and look into barrels.

    2.Your manual says use ONLY steel BBs

    3. Use of lead pellets will invalidate your warranty.

    4. It will probably damage your shells or gun.

    If you are that keen on lead put some leaded petrol into your car and see how you get on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingernut View Post
    1.I tend not to take advice from people who wave guns around and look into barrels.

    2.Your manual says use ONLY steel BBs

    3. Use of lead pellets will invalidate your warranty.

    4. It will probably damage your shells or gun.

    If you are that keen on lead put some leaded petrol into your car and see how you get on.
    The provision of the link was primarily in direct response to Harvey's question regarding pellet accuracy in the CAA as it
    demonstrates the answer quite nicely I feel and that after all is the subject matter of this thread.

    I'm sure that few of us would argue with your philosophy of not taking, too seriously, advice from someone who is, shall we say, a little erratic and eccentric in his demonstrations involving guns. However, I would have thought that most on this board would have taken the hint from my early comment that "this guy is a real case".

    As for manuals, they tell you lots of things, some very sensible, others moderately so and yet more, totally inane. If mankind had stuck to the manual we'd all be still living in caves. Regarding your points three and four, frankly, I don't care. I have more than one of these guns and several spare cartridges and am prepared to experiment in the name of accuracy and not least safety. The use of the copper coated lead BBs has indeed proven to be much safer than steel and they flatten nicely on impact in a steel pellet trap whereas the steel are apt to rebound unexpectedly. I for one would prefer to potentially void my warranty than to unnecessarily risk injury from a rebound, because of what the manual says.

    Obviously this is a personal choice not a recommendation to others.

    As for your comment regarding lead in my car I'm afraid I am unable to answer in any sensible fashion since your point would appear to fall somewhere between being a mixed metaphor and a non sequitur.

    For all that I'm sure you were merely trying to be helpful and if so I am most grateful for the pointers.

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    hi guys,
    i just thought i would quickly add this..
    i seem to get just as tight grouping using umarex steel BB's or H&N copper coated lead BB's as most tend to get when using pellets, the grouping mak shows using pellets in hes video i think are quite average, so high accuracy even for a BB shooter its not quite true..

    Dont get me wrong though i like some of maks videos and he is a nice guy to talk to as well..

    Also i know people use pellets in their peacemaker, but lets not forget the smooth bore barrels that come in BB airguns are quite tight for pellets, the barrels are quite a bit tighter then a 4.5mm rifled barrel,, so when using pellets, pellets will leave a lead coating/dust etc inside your inner barrel, and after time this will build up, And because the barrels on these peacemakers are not easy to clean as the cylinder can not be removed unless the gun is completely taken to bits, i would not wont to use pellets in mine,, you can clean the barrel with a push rod from the muzzle end but once again, your pushing the dust/dirt etc down towards the cylinder which is not ideal..

    What i say is, do you really want to dirty the barrel and risk damaging the seal on the cartridges just for a possible 5mm or so better grouping and like i said umarex or H&H BB's seem to do just as good a job anyway, well for me and a few others at least..
    If you dont want rebounds go for the H&N copper coated BB's, they will not dirty your barrel half as quickly as lead pellets will and will also not damage your seals either..

    Its just my thoughts guys, im not saying im right and others are wrong its just my opinion.

    ATB, Marc..
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    Not personal Hombre.
    Some of my best friends are projectile promiscuous!
    Not me tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingernut View Post
    Not personal Hombre.
    Some of my best friends are projectile promiscuous!
    Not me tho.
    No worries Gingernut, not taken as such

    Just putting a personal perspective on record so as not to give the impression I was endorsing any of the actions in either the video
    or dismissing any of your timely warning shots!

    Individual choice and safety first as always - not necessarily the same thing unfortunately...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc.RG1 View Post
    hi guys,
    i just thought i would quickly add this..
    i seem to get just as tight grouping using umarex steel BB's or H&N copper coated lead BB's as most tend to get when using pellets, the grouping mak shows using pellets in hes video i think are quite average, so high accuracy even for a BB shooter its not..

    Dont get me wrong though i like some of maks videos and he is a nice guy to talk to as well..

    Also i know people use pellets in their peacemaker, but lets not forget the smooth bore barrels then come in BB airguns are quite tight for pellets, the barrels are quite a bit tighter then a 4.5mm rifled barrel,, so when using pellet, pellets with leave a lead coating/dust etc inside your inner barrel, and after time this will build up, And because the barrels on these peacemaker are not easy to clean as the cylinder can not be removed unless the gun is completely taken to bits, would not wont to use pellets in mine,, you can clean the barrel with a push rod from the muzzle end but once again, your pushing the dust/dirt etc down towards the cylinder which is not ideal..

    What i say is do you really want to dirty the barrel and risk damaging the seal on the cartridges just for a possible 5mm or so better grouping and like i said umarex or H&H BB's seem to do just as good a job anyway, well for me and a few others at least..
    If you dont want rebounds go for the H&N copper coated BB's, they will not dirty your barrel half as quickly as lead pellets will and will also not damage your seals either..

    Its just my thoughts guys, im not saying im right and others are wrong its just my opinion.

    ATB, Marc..
    I wouldn't disagree with any of that Marc and as such only intend using one of my Colts with pellets

    I agree that the grouping is not massively better in the video, using pellets, and I'd be disappointed if I couldn't better that with any ammo.
    It just seemed an off the cuff example answer to Harvey's question about using pellets in these revolvers.

    So, for me it will be copper coated lead for steel traps or where rebound may be an issue and steel when safe.

    Keep up the good work

    ATB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hombre View Post
    So, for me it will be copper coated lead for steel traps or where rebound may be an issue and steel when safe.

    Keep up the good work

    ATB
    Hombre
    Hi hombre, thank you mate..
    yeah same here, hopefully my spare cartridges and more H&N BB's will come tomorrow.. Be just in time to take the peacemakers to gun club.

    Happy shooting all.
    ATB, Marc..
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