Did the Accuracy & Power tests on both my SAA's (hmmm)

[Benelli B76]

We were shooting ours at our forest range Friday. I noticed that the cartridges are a lose fit in the chambers and slightly tip down with gravity at the exit end opposite the flash gap. Has anybody tried centralising the cartridges somehow with PTFE tape or suchlike ? You can do this with the Colt as the cartridges can be kept in place when loading bbs. Accuracy could then be improved.

Baz

I took the silence as a "no" and have just done it myself. One layer of Stadium PTFE tape at the front of the cartridge and one layer at the back tightens the fit in the chamber. Off to church now so will have to test grouping when I get home.

Baz

[Marc.RG1]

I took the silence as a "no" and have just done it myself. One layer of Stadium PTFE tape at the front of the cartridge and one layer at the back tightens the fit in the chamber. Off to church now so will have to test grouping when I get home.

Baz

Hi guys

yeah there is slight movement on the cartridges that sit loose in the cylinder, but only on the 5 that are not pushed against the barrel and co2 valve, the cartridge that presses against the spring loaded barrel and co2 valve has no wobble what so ever, so putting PTFE tape around the tip and base of the cartridges will not do nothing i think..

ATB, Marc

[harvey_s]

Apparently lead pellets will fit the cartridges, what is the accuracy like with these? Maybe it'll help with the fliers...

[Marc.RG1]

Hi Harvey, if you look at the pictures in my first post your see what the accuracy is like mate.
Yeah you can use pellets with these some people I know a few people that have stopped using pellets in the cartridges though as the skirt can damage the seals on the cartridges, and accuracy wise is about the same..
ATB, marc..

[Hombre]

Apparently lead pellets will fit the cartridges, what is the accuracy like with these? Maybe it'll help with the fliers...

Have a look at this - the guy is a real case but actually knows what he's talking about in the main. See also his video on powering up/or down the Dan Wesson 2.5 Nickel.

He's actually not correct regarding the pellets not working in the SAA as I and others it would appear have tried it and they work just fine pushed in flush with cartridge skirt. It may be however that continued use could damage the cartridge rim but as far as accuracy is concerned I have found the grouping with pellets to be noticeably better than steel BBs. Not tried the copper coated lead BBs yet, though I think they will reduce rebound from steel pellet traps considerably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvCFMK_b5YQ

ATB
Hombre

[gingernut]

1.I tend not to take advice from people who wave guns around and look into barrels.

2.Your manual says use ONLY steel BBs

3. Use of lead pellets will invalidate your warranty.

4. It will probably damage your shells or gun.

If you are that keen on lead put some leaded petrol into your car and see how you get on.

[Hombre]

1.I tend not to take advice from people who wave guns around and look into barrels.

2.Your manual says use ONLY steel BBs

3. Use of lead pellets will invalidate your warranty.

4. It will probably damage your shells or gun.

If you are that keen on lead put some leaded petrol into your car and see how you get on.

The provision of the link was primarily in direct response to Harvey's question regarding pellet accuracy in the CAA as it
demonstrates the answer quite nicely I feel and that after all is the subject matter of this thread.

I'm sure that few of us would argue with your philosophy of not taking, too seriously, advice from someone who is, shall we say, a little erratic and eccentric in his demonstrations involving guns. However, I would have thought that most on this board would have taken the hint from my early comment that "this guy is a real case".

As for manuals, they tell you lots of things, some very sensible, others moderately so and yet more, totally inane. If mankind had stuck to the manual we'd all be still living in caves. Regarding your points three and four, frankly, I don't care. I have more than one of these guns and several spare cartridges and am prepared to experiment in the name of accuracy and not least safety. The use of the copper coated lead BBs has indeed proven to be much safer than steel and they flatten nicely on impact in a steel pellet trap whereas the steel are apt to rebound unexpectedly. I for one would prefer to potentially void my warranty than to unnecessarily risk injury from a rebound, because of what the manual says.

Obviously this is a personal choice not a recommendation to others.

As for your comment regarding lead in my car I'm afraid I am unable to answer in any sensible fashion since your point would appear to fall somewhere between being a mixed metaphor and a non sequitur.

For all that I'm sure you were merely trying to be helpful and if so I am most grateful for the pointers.

ATB
Hombre

[Marc.RG1]

hi guys,
i just thought i would quickly add this..
i seem to get just as tight grouping using umarex steel BB's or H&N copper coated lead BB's as most tend to get when using pellets, the grouping mak shows using pellets in hes video i think are quite average, so high accuracy even for a BB shooter its not quite true..

Dont get me wrong though i like some of maks videos and he is a nice guy to talk to as well..

Also i know people use pellets in their peacemaker, but lets not forget the smooth bore barrels that come in BB airguns are quite tight for pellets, the barrels are quite a bit tighter then a 4.5mm rifled barrel,, so when using pellets, pellets will leave a lead coating/dust etc inside your inner barrel, and after time this will build up, And because the barrels on these peacemakers are not easy to clean as the cylinder can not be removed unless the gun is completely taken to bits, i would not wont to use pellets in mine,, you can clean the barrel with a push rod from the muzzle end but once again, your pushing the dust/dirt etc down towards the cylinder which is not ideal..

What i say is, do you really want to dirty the barrel and risk damaging the seal on the cartridges just for a possible 5mm or so better grouping and like i said umarex or H&H BB's seem to do just as good a job anyway, well for me and a few others at least..
If you dont want rebounds go for the H&N copper coated BB's, they will not dirty your barrel half as quickly as lead pellets will and will also not damage your seals either..

Its just my thoughts guys, im not saying im right and others are wrong its just my opinion.

ATB, Marc..