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    3 ball bearing trigger
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    I had an Original mod 35. It twanged like a good 'un and so I stripped it down and relubed it. The trigger assembly is certainly a challenge and it didn't take too long to start twanging again. I sold it on here recently as it was well down the pecking order on my .177's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalBee View Post
    I had an Original mod 35. It twanged like a good 'un and so I stripped it down and relubed it. The trigger assembly is certainly a challenge and it didn't take too long to start twanging again. I sold it on here recently as it was well down the pecking order on my .177's.

    I bought it from you,Mark as you will remember.The thing with Original 35's is that they were a bit of a disappointment at the time power wise never living up to expectation.The Original 45 replaced the 35 and did what the 35 was supposed to do!

    Because the 35 is only a medium powered gun people tend to have oversprung them looking for 12ftlbs.As a result they are harsh and twangy,but when fitted with the right spring etc they are a very pleasant and accurate gun to shoot.They are also exceptionally well made putting many HW's by comparison in the shade build wise and have a very good trigger when adjusted correctly,( which most aren't)!

    Too much fuss is made about these triggers and with a bit of patience and common sense they are quite easy to deal with!

    I have many Originals and am very fond of them they are great vintage rifles,but have to be kept tuned to within their original design limitations.

    ATB,
    Mark.
    Last edited by mrto; 28-08-2015 at 10:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrto View Post
    I bought it from you,Mark as you will remember.The thing with Original 35's is that they were a bit of a disappointment at the time power wise never living up to expectation.The Original 45 replaced the 35 and did what the 35 was supposed to do!

    Because the 35 is only a medium powered gun people tend to have oversprung them looking for 12ftlbs.As a result they are harsh and twangy,but when fitted with the right spring etc they are a very pleasant and accurate gun to shoot.They are also exceptionally well made putting many HW's by comparison in the shade build wise and have a very good trigger when adjusted correctly,( which most aren't)!

    Too much fuss is made about these triggers and with a bit of patience and common sense they are quite easy to deal with!

    I have many Originals and am very fond of them they are great vintage rifles,but have to be kept tuned to within their original design limitations.

    ATB,
    Mark.
    Hope you enjoy it Mark. I just found I was shooting it so little as I have a couple of better .177's (in my opinion), I may as well let it go. Your comments ref' the power are correct, I think they got found out in the press at the time of their manufacture, which spelt the model's death knell, but apart from the twang, a pleasant rifle to shoot ( I have to admit the trigger on my old one probably needed adjusting)

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    Hi,

    This morning I put a chrono at the end of the barrel. The first reading well, please don't ask for the figure. I thought that I had to open it all out and cut off half the length of the spring. It was certainly dieseling. After about 20 shots it settled down to about 9.5 ft/lb or about 720 ft/s with JSB Exact 8.44gr. I think that this is the acceptable power level for this old girl. I am now just wondering how I can get the twang out of it. Something is not quite right with the design of this gun I think.

    A.G

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    Quote Originally Posted by lensman57 View Post
    Hi,

    This morning I put a chrono at the end of the barrel. The first reading well, please don't ask for the figure. I thought that I had to open it all out and cut off half the length of the spring. It was certainly dieseling. After about 20 shots it settled down to about 9.5 ft/lb or about 720 ft/s with JSB Exact 8.44gr. I think that this is the acceptable power level for this old girl. I am now just wondering how I can get the twang out of it. Something is not quite right with the design of this gun I think.

    A.G
    It's OK at 9.5. Re the twang, a decent spring guide should sort it out but be prepared for a power loss. The cylinder is not very large hence he low power which can't easily/realistically be improved upon.

    My very first airgun, and the (successful) shots I took with it meant that I never complained about the power, and mine was probably pushing out a lot less than 9.5.

    The 3 ball trigger? No biggie. Just grease the balls in place while assembling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by air-tech View Post
    It's OK at 9.5. Re the twang, a decent spring guide should sort it out but be prepared for a power loss. The cylinder is not very large hence he low power which can't easily/realistically be improved upon.

    My very first airgun, and the (successful) shots I took with it meant that I never complained about the power, and mine was probably pushing out a lot less than 9.5.

    The 3 ball trigger? No biggie. Just grease the balls in place while assembling.
    Hi,

    I did put grease on the ball bearings, the only way that they would stay in. The ball bearings were not the main problem with the trigger placement, it was that stupid spring which seem to be there for no reason or any that I can detect as the cylindrical bit it mounts on is stationary. I have machined a spring guide out of Oilon and replaced the original one with it also machined a top hat out of the same material. I put the chrono on this morning again and it did 630 ft/s with JSB heavies which is just over 9.1 ft/lb so it maybe settling down a little. I may machine a spring guide and top hat out of Delrin for it as a fun project. I have also bought a replacement spring Titan I think but it is a lot longer than the standard.

    A.G

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