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    Hi,

    Apart from the air pistols, there are also some interesting modifications to BSA air rifles.


    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...8-a50800e2c45d

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...4-a50800e2c5aa

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...b-a50800e2c742

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    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hi,

    Apart from the air pistols, there are also some interesting modifications to BSA air rifles.


    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...8-a50800e2c45d

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...4-a50800e2c5aa

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...b-a50800e2c742

    Regards

    Brian
    Can't believe someone has ruined a perfectly good A Series by adding a potentially illegal ether injection system

    John

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    ether injection

    Now that should be FUN, ive heard of Barracudas bulging the cylinders so i think its safe to assume this one hasnt had too much use.
    eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Can't believe someone has ruined a perfectly good A Series by adding a potentially illegal ether injection system

    John
    Not sure if this would be practical for injecting ether. 3-in-1 oil maybe?

    Certainly one of the more interesting of these models.

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    L . Wesley includes this passage in his Air Guns and Air Pistols book.

    “ I once designed a gadget that could be fitted to any underlever air-rifle, which would produce this diesel action continuously without any harmful effects on the rifle.
    It consisted of a small cylinder and piston and a tiny reservoir which held about a thimbleful of thin oil. There were also two very fine tubes with the ends set at right angles to one another in a similar way to the nozzle of a scent spray. It was arranged in such a way that the action of cocking the rifle caused the small piston to blow air drawn down one of these tubes and oil to rise in the other one. When this oil was met by the air it was atomised and injected directly into the cylinder of the air rifle. Best results were obtained when only one drop of oil was injected for each cocking of the air rifle. Various kinds of oil were tried, and maximum power was found to be nearly three times the normal performance. The device was made and fitted purely for experimental use and is never likely to be commercially made as it would produce power in excess of allowed standards”.

    So, not much new under the sun.

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    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    L . Wesley includes this passage in his Air Guns and Air Pistols book.

    “ I once designed a gadget that could be fitted to any underlever air-rifle, which would produce this diesel action continuously without any harmful effects on the rifle.
    It consisted of a small cylinder and piston and a tiny reservoir which held about a thimbleful of thin oil. There were also two very fine tubes with the ends set at right angles to one another in a similar way to the nozzle of a scent spray. It was arranged in such a way that the action of cocking the rifle caused the small piston to blow air drawn down one of these tubes and oil to rise in the other one. When this oil was met by the air it was atomised and injected directly into the cylinder of the air rifle. Best results were obtained when only one drop of oil was injected for each cocking of the air rifle. Various kinds of oil were tried, and maximum power was found to be nearly three times the normal performance. The device was made and fitted purely for experimental use and is never likely to be commercially made as it would produce power in excess of allowed standards”.

    So, not much new under the sun.

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    Brian
    Hi Brian,

    John Atkins once featured pictures of a Webley Senior fitted with one of Les Wesley's gadgets. I wonder if the BSA was fitted with a rifle version. I still say it has spoilt a classic BSA though.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Hi Brian,

    John Atkins once featured pictures of a Webley Senior fitted with one of Les Wesley's gadgets. I wonder if the BSA was fitted with a rifle version. I still say it has spoilt a classic BSA though.

    John
    Hi John,

    I recall reading an article in one of the air gun magazines at some time which referred to limited production of a German air rifle which used an ether injection system. The article suggested that although the power increase was dramatic, it was too punishing on the internals of the rifle and of course would not have been legal in all countries.

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    Brian

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    What a Collection

    What am amazing collection of airguns .
    Sort of puts a downer on the all the internet clowns who argue black is blue that their Webley Premier is 'rare' and priced at $$$ .
    This man Swann has had his airguns featured by Atkins ( I remember Gems specifically ) ...and that disc firing Bugelspanner .
    I only hope Mr Atkins has been able to access all these other rareities to catalogue them for our future interest .......at our age , the few 'real' collectors on this forum will never see the like of this assortment at one tim a in one place again . 10 years from now it will all be Umarex and .......

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