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    Caution about gun in this week's auction!

    I'm told that Lot 1033 - "An Argles Patent twist barrel air gun, with fruit wood stock and scrolling steel trigger guard" is probably not an airgun at all, so beware! Apparently it's most likely a small garden shotgun and needs a certificate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    I'm told that Lot 1033 - "An Argles Patent twist barrel air gun, with fruit wood stock and scrolling steel trigger guard" is probably not an airgun at all, so beware! Apparently it's most likely a small garden shotgun and needs a certificate.


    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...e-a50800e33c0f
    l think you are right Danny it is a garden gun, there was one for sale at the Brum arms fair at the weekend, but l was told it's off ticket as it's in 7mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micky View Post
    l think you are right Danny it is a garden gun, there was one for sale at the Brum arms fair at the weekend, but l was told it's off ticket as it's in 7mm.
    Thanks Mick. Is 7mm an obsolete calibre?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Thanks Mick. Is 7mm an obsolete calibre?
    Hi Danny,


    7mm rimfire is currently an obsolete calibre and therefore off ticket, but I am aware that obsolete calibres, de-acts and the definition of an antique are currently under review.

    Regards

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hi Danny,


    7mm rimfire is currently an obsolete calibre and therefore off ticket, but I am aware that obsolete calibres, de-acts and the definition of an antique are currently under review.

    Regards

    Brian
    Thanks for that, Brian. Bidders take note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hi Danny,


    7mm rimfire is currently an obsolete calibre and therefore off ticket, but I am aware that obsolete calibres, de-acts and the definition of an antique are currently under review.

    Regards

    Brian
    Hi Brian, l was told on Sunday by a dealer that they wanted to treat de-acts like they do with post war airguns, and to get the name and address of the buyer, but l think that is for dealers only.

    Regards,
    Mick.

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    All the above duly noted - however.... Lot 1083...
    I'm still drooling slightly from the 'boxed' pair (though mis-matched as not consecutive serial numbers) of Pope pistols:

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...8-a50800e37cca

    presumably that is at least one 'shoulder stock' included as well?

    Any idea what they might fetch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chieffool View Post
    All the above duly noted - however.... Lot 1083...
    I'm still drooling slightly from the 'boxed' pair (though mis-matched as not consecutive serial numbers) of Pope pistols:

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...8-a50800e37cca

    presumably that is at least one 'shoulder stock' included as well?

    Any idea what they might fetch?
    £1,000 hammer?

    Yes, I can see one shoulder stock.

    Ignore the 1980 estimated date...
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    !!!!
    [SIGH]...
    ...oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chieffool View Post
    !!!!
    [SIGH]...
    ...oh well...
    I could be wrong!
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    ]All the above duly noted - however.... Lot 1083...
    I'm still drooling slightly from the 'boxed' pair (though mis-matched as not consecutive serial numbers) of Pope pistols:

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/au...8-a50800e37cca

    presumably that is at least one 'shoulder stock' included as well?

    Any idea what they might fetch?



    The case is perfectly genuine, as is the rather strange two-compartment central box, but the set would have come originally with just one pistol, and the shoulder stock would have occupied the space where the second pistol sits. The two clips holding the spanner are also later additions. So it is a bit of a marriage, but nevertheless is worth £500-600 as a single boxed pistol plus a further £250 for the second Pope. If it was a genuine cased pair with two shoulder stocks then Danny's suggestion would IMO be a reasonable figure.

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    All will be revealed tomorrow - The auctioneers are going to have a very profitable day !

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    I also love the Bedford & Walker .215 lots 1048, and 1049.
    Look like something Dan Dare would have had to face at the hands of the Mekon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chieffool View Post
    I also love the Bedford & Walker .215 lots 1048, and 1049.
    Look like something Dan Dare would have had to face at the hands of the Mekon!
    Especially if he'd lost his water jet pistol.

    (Or a Mk3 FWB Sport)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark D View Post
    All will be revealed tomorrow - The auctioneers are going to have a very profitable day !
    That sounds like someone who has emptied out his bank account in anticipation, Mark.
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